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Re: Maternal surname mystery
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 03 September 23 19:46 BST (UK) »
1841 census for Wrexham are not online.

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They may not be online but they are available - Denbighshire Archives and National Archives.

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Re: Maternal surname mystery
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 03 September 23 20:36 BST (UK) »
John and Mary Eddowes are at 1851 2503/480/14
He is now a Coal Jagger.

John Eddowes married Mary Whitfield in 1826.

What is Elizabeth’s fathers occupation on the marriage?
Who were the witnesses?
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Re: Maternal surname mystery
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 03 September 23 20:48 BST (UK) »
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Re: Maternal surname mystery
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 03 September 23 20:53 BST (UK) »
As Osprey says, the Wrexham area1841 census is missing. I do have the transcriptions of the  listings of Wrexham town.   The original lists were found inside a book in a second hand bookshop. Clwyd FHS then  produced a booklet transcribed from the lists.

If you think they might be in Wrexham itself, I'll have a look for you.

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Note - the Wrexham Town transcripts are the only ones available for the wider Wrexham area. There are many threads on here about this.
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Re: Maternal surname mystery
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 03 September 23 21:58 BST (UK) »
What is her father’s occupation?
There is a baptism
Feb 17th 1827, Wrexham
Elizabeth Eddowes, daughter of John and Mary, Bank Street.
John is a Maltster - so that fits with the Brewing theme.

The 1841 lsiting does have this information, which woulld fit with Elizabeth's age:

Beast Market

Mary Eddowes 35
Elizabeth, 14
George, 10
Edmond, 7
Esther, 5
John, 2
Thomas, 2

Al born County. 

No other information Bank street is in the same area as the various markets.  I knew the area well in my youth!

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Re: Maternal surname mystery
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 03 September 23 22:03 BST (UK) »
The names that I've listed on the 1841 transcript match the names on the 1851 that heywood refers to.

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Add the 1851 address is also Beast Market  :)
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Re: Maternal surname mystery
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 03 September 23 22:08 BST (UK) »
1829 Wrexham birth for Elizabeth Eddowes - trees have her as dying in 1838 - but they could all have copied each other.

Gadget’s information shows an Elizabeth in 1841 with John and Mary.
Is she Elizabeth Ellis though?
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Re: Maternal surname mystery
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 03 September 23 22:12 BST (UK) »
It's the same family that you found in the 1851, heywood.  No suitable Elizabeth Ellis on the 1841 so far. 

Elizabeth is not with the Eddowes family in 1851. 
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« Reply #17 on: Sunday 03 September 23 22:17 BST (UK) »
Just checked the Wrexham parish records for burials.

Elizabeth Eddowes was buried 18 Nov 1837. She was aged 2  Listed as of Bersham - a mining township outside of the town of Wrexham.
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