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Arthur Leslie Banner - what happened after 1920
« on: Tuesday 05 September 23 14:59 BST (UK) »
Hi All,
Pretty stumped on this one and need assistance please.
I have an Arthur Leslie Banner born late in 1883 in Wednesbury, Staffordshire.
He served in WW1 and had a chequered career whilst in the Army and there are a number of Army records relating to service between 1914 and 1920 at which point he was discharged from the army, comments in some of his army records do make reference to medical issues around mental health (possibly a clue to where he ended up???).
He married on 14th August 1920 to Charlotte Ash with the marriage certificate confirming he has been widowed previously and worked as a Rubber Worker and listed as aged 35 (should be 36) and that he was living at 115 Holte Road, Aston.
The birth certificate of his and Charlotte's first child Joseph Elijah Banner who was born on 20th January 1921 states they were living at 19 back 188 Mount Street, Aston and that Arthur was now listed as a Corporation Worker.
Records suggest that they had another 2 children Clifford in 1924 and Charles in 1927 in the Hadfield area of Glossop, Derbyshire.
The 1939 National Register has all 3 children and Charlotte living at 20 Bank Bottom, Hadfield, Glossop, Derbyshire with Charlotte listed as married.
However I am unable to locate Arthur in 1939 or even him, Charlotte and Joseph (who would have been a few months old) anywhere on the 1921 census which is even more baffling!  Also I am unable to find any death record of Arthur.
It's really strange how he has just gone off the map and why the family are not on the 1921 census - any help would be appreciated on this one - thanks
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Re: Arthur Leslie Banner - what happened after 1920
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 September 23 15:19 BST (UK) »
Do you know when his wife died and if the children mention him as deceased on their own marriages?
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Re: Arthur Leslie Banner - what happened after 1920
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 05 September 23 15:23 BST (UK) »
A family tree has his death as 11 Mar 1955 Birmingham but with widow E Banner so did he marry again.
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Re: Arthur Leslie Banner - what happened after 1920
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 05 September 23 15:27 BST (UK) »
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20th January 1921 states they were living at 19 back 188 Mount Street, Aston and that Arthur was now listed as a Corporation Worker.

I guess you have checked that address in 1921  :-\
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Re: Arthur Leslie Banner - what happened after 1920
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 05 September 23 15:36 BST (UK) »
I suspect that could be the marriage in June qtr 1933 between Eunice I Trace & Arthur L Banner in Wales - middle name probably Llewellyn

But this is his death

Deaths Jun 1978 
BANNER    ARTHUR LLEWELLYN    14AP1907    NEWPORT    28   560

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20th January 1921 states they were living at 19 back 188 Mount Street, Aston and that Arthur was now listed as a Corporation Worker.

I guess you have checked that address in 1921  :-\

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Re: Arthur Leslie Banner - what happened after 1920
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 05 September 23 15:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Milliepede
Charlotte his wife died in 1962 with her death registered in the Ashton area of Lancashire.
The one vision I have of any of the children's marriage certificates was eldest son Joseph Elijah Banner in 1950 - this record confirms his father as Arthur Leslie Banner and that he worked as a Corporation Labourer - no comment stating he was deceased
I've also seen your private message - that is not the right Arthur - there was an Arthur Banner born in 1884 and the Emily it refers to as his wife he was with prior to 1921 with records on the 1939 Register matching with this other Arthur Banner unfortunately
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Re: Arthur Leslie Banner - what happened after 1920
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 05 September 23 15:44 BST (UK) »
Right thanks, bit of a mix up on the tree then.
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Re: Arthur Leslie Banner - what happened after 1920
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 05 September 23 15:49 BST (UK) »
yes Milliepede - sadly they've got it wrong - check check and check again has not been adhered to!  ;)
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