Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916

[MonicaL]

This looks to be the death of the Agnes you have been discussing:

AGNES BROWN GRAHAM or LOGAN
Age 89
Mother's maiden name MINTO
1987
619 / 269
Glasgow, Park Circus

Too recent to view online and would need to be ordered.

Her marriage?

AGNES BROWN GRAHAME and JAMES LOGAN
1920
501 / 216
Old or West Kilpatrick

As Kloumann said early, all under investigation at this time 

Monica

[pocketslint]

Thanks Monica

[pocketslint]

The death of 'baby' Agnes Graham was as follows;

HAMILTON GRACE AGNES MAC 63 F 1979 611 / 546 GLASGOW, MARTHA ST

I know her son who is looking to identify his grandmother, and extended family, ie the 'mother' Agnes Graham who gave birth in 1916.

[Kloumann]

What was the Mac in her name short for?

[Kloumann]

The other possibility for Agnes B is Agnes Barrie Graham, b 1898, married Walter Barr Love, 1923, died 1943. They had 2 children, a boy & a girl, 1926 & 1930.

The Agnes B on the 1921 census in Kirkcaldy Rd was listed as single.

[pocketslint]

What was the Mac in her name short for?

GRAHAM GRACE AGNES MACKINNON ROBERT 1952 644 / 8 / 991 BLYTHSWOOD

She was married previously which was childless. I am waiting for confirmation of the name. She was also married for a third, and last time, to a Hamilton.

Her first husband was Macadam.

[MonicaL]

I think the only 'hard' piece of info I have seen for mother Agnes is her original signature on her daughter's birth registration. You/the family have this.  A comparison of that signature against other registrations mother Agnes may have made can open doors (births and marriage(s)).

The only thing to take care of is that on some images on SP, the actual image shown can be a copy from the original register. Copies or originals were to be sent to the National Records of Scotland in Edinburgh (the remaining copy or original register was kept by the local registrar). You can tell when you are looking at a copy rather the original. On copies, the writing, including the signature(s), is made by the same hand! It will also normally have the word 'signed' on the entry to indicate that what you are looking at online is a copy.

The image on SP of the marriage of Agnes Brown Graham (daughter of Margaret Minto and Hugh Graham) for example, is a copy. So no way of knowing it there could be a match with her really.

Monica

 

[pocketslint]

that makes sense. i would never have thought of that, Thanks monica

[pocketslint]

The birth was registered as just Agnes Graham, but seemed to be changed to Grace Agnes Mac??.

The names on 1915 roll were, Brown, Clark, Folley, MacKenzie (Mrs), MacLeod, MacTeague, Montgomerie, Neave.

The baby was 'fostered' at birth, therefore I presume that the new parents would have christened her as was their want, ie Grace. The "Mac" is most likely a shortened form of her first married name of Macadam.

Does anyone know if children born illegitimate at this time would customarily have had their name entered as that of the mother? As in this case Agnes Graham.