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Missing Resting Places: Morris Family Mystery
« on: Wednesday 06 September 23 17:24 BST (UK) »
I have a few family mysteries yet to solve and this is one conundrum.
I cannot find the resting place of my first cousin Nat Morris and wondering if any members here may have some new searching ideas/leads to try.
Nat died in Newtown, Sydney in 1969 according to his death certificate, and after that the trail goes cold.
Some background in brief which may be helpful. This was not his real name. His government name was Larten Slatopolsky known as 'Nuskie' to the family. and he was born in Glasgow into a Jewish migrant family. He took the gentile name Nathan. 
In the 1920s he absconded from Scotland without telling the family and migrated to Australia where he shortened his forename to Nat and took Morris his father's name as his last name becoming 'Nat Morris.' I haven't found any evidence he changed his name officially or ever naturalized.
In 1931 he married Marjorie May Broughton from an old NSW pastoral family. They had one son Frank who died in childhood at five, so there were no descendants. They lived in Camperdown around the back of Newtown for life.
The family did eventually find out where he was but he excommunicated them essentially. He didn't want anything to do with a reunion of any kind. I have no idea what the reason was behind all of this but something serious must have happened now I think about it. Nobody now knows. I get an inkling from a family story he just didn't want anything to do with being Jewish or his old life for reasons known to himself.
I have searched every cemetery and database I can think of. Including all the Jewish cemeteries.  It was very unusual for someone of a Jewish family not to be interred in consecrated Hebrew ground even if they had left the faith. He's not in Rookwood or Springvale. I think it's clear he was an exception to this general rule. yes I have checked all the name variations, government names, variations, misspellings etc.
Here is where it gets even weirder, Marjorie's resting place ALSO cannot be found! So not just one but two people. I'm wondering if it is possible they were cremations and this was somehow unrecorded or, records are perhaps incomplete, but I think this would be unusual. Were pauper burials unrecorded in NSW state? 
Marjorie's mother had several siblings but amazingly I haven't been able to track any descendants from any; except one branch, her aunt Mabel Alice Audet which also fizzles out. I was hoping someone may have more info but that line of inquiry has been unsuccessful.
Marjorie died 1978 and left her estate to Alfred Alexander Audet the lawyer son of her aunt Mabel. So she died with means, probably owning their house in Camperdown, rather than broke.
After that the trail also goes cold.
It's so odd. I haven't had a case I can't eventually crack yet but this one has me stumped. Thanks in advance.

Associated surnames: MORRIS SLATOPOLSKY ZLOTOPOLSKI BROUGHTON AUDET MELVILLE GIBBONS MCGUIGAN PRICE SAXON

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Re: Missing Resting Places: Morris Family Mystery
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 21:31 BST (UK) »

I cannot find the resting place of my first cousin Nat Morris and wondering if any members here may have some new searching ideas/leads to try.
Nat died in Newtown, Sydney in 1969 according to his death certificate, and after that the trail goes cold.


If you have his death certificate it should be noted on it where he was buried.

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Re: Missing Resting Places: Morris Family Mystery
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 22:52 BST (UK) »
He was born in Scotland so was a British Subject, therefore no requirement to be naturalized.

Debra  :)

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Re: Missing Resting Places: Morris Family Mystery
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 September 23 00:59 BST (UK) »
Funeral notice for Marjorie May MORRIS states Rookwood Crematorium
https://postimg.cc/2Lpdjdr8


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Re: Missing Resting Places: Morris Family Mystery
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 September 23 01:28 BST (UK) »
son's Frank Nathan Morris  Funeral notice  Sydney Morning Herald 21.8.1937 states Buried Church of England Cemetery Rookwood.

I cannot work out how to attach notice  Google newspapers SMH 21.8.1937 page 15

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19370821&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

Cass

rookwood link  https://rookwoodcemetery.discovereverafter.com/profile/26442035

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Re: Missing Resting Places: Morris Family Mystery
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 September 23 04:57 BST (UK) »
He was born in Scotland so was a British Subject, therefore no requirement to be naturalized.

Debra  :)

People still did it though so there must have been some advantage to it. I've looked at documents and it wasn't exactly an easy process. The police would go to great lengths to follow every lead and reference and interview everyone mentioned in your memorials and statements.

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Re: Missing Resting Places: Morris Family Mystery
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 September 23 05:03 BST (UK) »
Funeral notice for Marjorie May MORRIS states Rookwood Crematorium
https://postimg.cc/2Lpdjdr8

I'm assuming that neither of them ever got memorials at the crematorium and perhaps the ashes were just scattered by family members somewhere requested. I think this was just beginning to become more of a popular trend around this time. Three of my grandparents were scattered but I think up until the 1970s it wasn't really the done thing.

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Re: Missing Resting Places: Morris Family Mystery
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 September 23 05:13 BST (UK) »
Hi, I would not assume that there is no memorials at the crematorium. I have parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles who were cremated at Rookwood and they all have memorials, some in the Rose Gardens.

Due to the cost of placement in the Rose Gardens the majority have Niches in the many Walls.  I would send an email to Rookwood Crematorium, you never know you might find a memorial.

good luck, Cass


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Re: Missing Resting Places: Morris Family Mystery
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 September 23 05:47 BST (UK) »
Funeral Notice: SMH 21 July 1969

MORRIS — The Relatives and Friends of the late Mr NATHAN (NAT) MORRIS, of 26 Hopetoun, Street Camperdown are invited to attend his Funeral to leave St. Stephen's Church, Church Street, Newtown, Tomorrow (Tuesday), after service commencing at 1.15 p.m., for the Rookwood Crematorium.