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Offline Ashnz

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The Brown family
« on: Friday 08 September 23 04:47 BST (UK) »
Hello every one,

I am researching the Brown family who were from Fifeshire. The father was John (b. 1836) and the mother was Janet (b. 1835). They left Fifeshire and took their children on the Brothers' Pride to New Zealand in the voyage of 1863. Their children were: Robert (b. 1856), Margaret (b.1858), David (b. 1860), Agnes (b. 1861/62).
The mother gave birth during the voyage, to a son on Nov 14. On Nov 16 son Robert died. Then on Nov 22 both the mother and son David died.  Finally the new born son died on Nov 24, leaving only the father John, Margaret and Agnes.
Everyone on the ship was quarantined at Camp Bay near Lyttelton, Canterbury. They were discharged in early 1864.

If anybody can shine any light to information about John, Margaret and Agnes that would be terrific.
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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
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CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
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Re: The Brown family
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 September 23 07:59 BST (UK) »
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: The Brown family
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 September 23 08:32 BST (UK) »

... Their children were: Robert (b. 1856), Margaret (b.1858), David (b. 1860), Agnes (b. 1861/62).
 ....  Finally the new born son died on Nov 24, leaving only the father John, Margaret and Agnes.

If anybody can shine any light to information about John, Margaret and Agnes that would be terrific.

Hi Ashley

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/LT18631210.2.9

The list in this ^  newspaper, shows a death for Agnes BROWN - two and a half years (bc 1861 ) on 14 November 1863.   ???

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Re: The Brown family
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 September 23 00:35 BST (UK) »
Confirmation > Deaths at Sea - "Brother's Pride" (to New Zealand - 1863)

BROWN - Agnes - 2 and a half years -- born:  Kenoway (sic)  [correct sp.  = Kennoway ]
 
Died :  14 November 1863 - Cause of death:  Typhus


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Re: The Brown family
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 September 23 03:05 BST (UK) »
Confirmation > Deaths at Sea - "Brother's Pride" (to New Zealand - 1863)

BROWN - Agnes - 2 and a half years -- born:  Kenoway (sic)  [correct sp.  = Kennoway ]
 
Died :  14 November 1863 - Cause of death:  Typhus


   ~  Lu

Thanks Lu  :)

Interesting that looking at the official ship's log - there were 2 Janet Browns - both died. On another list I can see both were to have died on Nov 22nd?
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Re: The Brown family
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 September 23 23:30 BST (UK) »
I found out that Margaret's full name was Margaret Murray Brown born Jan 20, 1858 and her mother was Janet (Jessie) Scott born Sep 18, 1834.
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Re: The Brown family
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 10 September 23 02:02 BST (UK) »
I found out that Margaret's full name was Margaret Murray Brown born Jan 20, 1858 and her mother was Janet (Jessie) Scott born Sep 18, 1834.

Good idea (as it's such a common name), to also add her "Place of Birth" ... which was - Kennoway, Fife, Scotland.   :)  [Source:  FindMyPast ]

Ashley ... will get back to you re: the two Janet BROWNs on Brother's Pride 1863.   I have information but just need time to sort through it.

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Re: The Brown family
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 September 23 05:41 BST (UK) »
I found out that Margaret's full name was Margaret Murray Brown born Jan 20, 1858 and her mother was Janet (Jessie) Scott born Sep 18, 1834.

Good idea (as it's such a common name), to also add her "Place of Birth" ... which was - Kennoway, Fife, Scotland.   :)  [Source:  FindMyPast ]

Ashley ... will get back to you re: the two Janet BROWNs on Brother's Pride 1863.   I have information but just need time to sort through it.

   ~  Lu

That is awesome Lu. I wouldn't be surprised if the 2 Janet Brown's were confused with each other and Janet from the single women passengers was a mistaken for the other. Though I am just speculating.

Ash
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