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Tracing a sapper who fought in the Second-Anglo Boer War.
« on: Saturday 09 September 23 02:39 BST (UK) »
Hello Everyone. I'm tracing Henry Theirs, the father of my great grandmother.
Henry was born in St Weonards, Herefordshire in 1881, his father’s name was Edwin Theirs, and her mother’s name was Emma Miles (from Kilpeck). He had several brothers and sisters too.
He was a sapper during the Second Anglo-Boer War. No. 3226. He fought in Cape Colony, Transvaal and Orange Free State. I knew he worked as a locomotive engineer during the war, operating the trains. He was only 19. Probably, he suffered something related to a train attack. I couldn’t find any specific registers about it, so please, if you do, just contact me. It sounds so interesting…

He fought in:

* The 2nd. Cheshire Royal Engineers (Railway Volunteers.)
* The 10th Railway Company, Royal Engineers.
* The 31st (Fortress) Company, Royal Engineers.
* The G Company (where he was transferred, 30 Jul 1901).


I've learned a lot about him through a great website which is specialized in the Anglo Boer War.

Currently, I'm looking (desperately) for a picture of Henry Theirs, and for information about other soldiers that knew him during the war. It's a hard work but a very interesting one too.

So, If your relative, the one who you are investigating, knew Henry, or fought in the same company, or if you find any photo of him, or of the companies he used to serve in, just contact me, ˇI would be very happy to discover more about him!

Remember, if you discover anything else about him, or anything else about his family, just contact me, I would be proud and happy to discover more about Henry!

P.S. I think, later, Emma Miles and Edwin Theirs (Henry's parents), moved to Wales, and I don’t know exactly why, they surname changed to “Thairs”. That’s the surname which appears on their grave, could this be possible? I think they moved to Wales, because one of their sons married there. So they bought an inn and they became innkeepers.

Thank you very much, for the motivation!

My best regards.

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Re: Tracing a sapper who fought in the Second-Anglo Boer War.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 September 23 05:18 BST (UK) »
Another thing which I forgot to mention:

I've been taking a look at his attestation papers, when he joined the army in 1899.

In a part of his statement of the service it says:

"Corps and Battns= 1st Class A Reserve Section C"

But I don't know what that means.


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Re: Tracing a sapper who fought in the Second-Anglo Boer War.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 September 23 06:20 BST (UK) »


P.S. I think, later, Emma Miles and Edwin Theirs (Henry's parents), moved to Wales, and I don’t know exactly why, they surname changed to “Thairs”. That’s the surname which appears on their grave, could this be possible?

The spelling of the surname varies from THAIRS to THEIRS. Neither was right nor wrong, but just different spellings of the same name. Both spellings and other variations are used in the census records and in birth, marriage and death records
Going back to earlier generations (the family originally came from Gloucestershire) the surname was more commonly written as THAYER(S) or THEYER(S).

Children of Edwin THAIRS and Emma MILES (married 1875)

•   Sarah Ann THEIRS born 1876 (Herefordshire)
•   James THEIRS born 1877 (Herefordshire)
•   Emily THEIRS born 1879 (Herefordshire)
•   Henry THEIRS birth registered in late 1880 (Herefordshire)
•   William Edwin THEIRS born 1882 (Herefordshire)
•   Albert THAIRS born 1885 (Herefordshire)
•   Mary Ellen born  1888 (I could not see a birth registration, she is on the census)
•   Emma (Edith) born about 1891 (I could not see a birth registration, she is on the census)
•   Robert THEYERS born 1887 (Herefordshire)
•   Arthur Frank THAIRS born 1893 (Herefordshire)
•   Herbert Fred THAIRS born 1900 (Wales)


It looks as if Edwin Thairs was Landlord of the Castle Inn, Newcastle, Monmouthshire for a short time from about 1900. By 1911 census he is recorded as a roadman (working for the county council).
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Tracing a sapper who fought in the Second-Anglo Boer War.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 September 23 10:30 BST (UK) »


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Re: Tracing a sapper who fought in the Second-Anglo Boer War.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 September 23 14:48 BST (UK) »
Wow thank you! I'm amazed with that newspaper. :o :o :o :o :o :o

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Re: Tracing a sapper who fought in the Second-Anglo Boer War.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 September 23 19:09 BST (UK) »
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Re: Tracing a sapper who fought in the Second-Anglo Boer War.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 September 23 19:27 BST (UK) »
Your military questions have already been answered here.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=876346.0
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Tracing a sapper who fought in the Second-Anglo Boer War.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 September 23 20:03 BST (UK) »
Oh, yes. Andy J2022, helped me with that
Thank you very much and have a great Saturday.