public tree on ancestry

[KGarrad]

I tried my local Library's computers today to access Ancestry's Public Family Tree only to find Ancestry don't allow anyone to View the Trees without a Subscription.  There must be a way ... I used Wikitree's Connection Finder app and saw the connection through to a Swiss Emigre to Philadelphia.
cheers, Ian

Huh?

Whenever I am using AncestryLibraryEdition (Not simply Ancestry) I can view other trees just fine.

[Ian Nelson]

My local library assistant must not be familiar with Ancestry Library Edition.  It took her 15 minutes to get me logged in as someone had inadvertently changed my log-in PIN.
The distant cousin who sent me her Family Tree Ref. No. was under the impression that anyone could view her Public Tree.
Ancestry do not OWN the Family Trees.  It is Information provided FREE by 3rd parties who have PAID a Subscription Fee already to have it made available to the Public, yet Ancestry insist on charging more money to have it viewed.
Wikitree, Familysearch, LancsOPC, LancsBMD, FreeReg, FreeBMD, FreeCen and many others do not charge. 
Remember that we paid our taxes to Councils and Governments to Record all this information in the first instance and they had no right to sell it to the Shysters to make Profit.
I'll try another Library in a bigger town, one with a Family History Centre hopefully
cheers, Ian

[KGarrad]

Have you read Ancestry's Terms and Conditions?

[Biggles50]

My local library assistant must not be familiar with Ancestry Library Edition.  It took her 15 minutes to get me logged in as someone had inadvertently changed my log-in PIN.
The distant cousin who sent me her Family Tree Ref. No. was under the impression that anyone could view her Public Tree.
Ancestry do not OWN the Family Trees.  It is Information provided FREE by 3rd parties who have PAID a Subscription Fee already to have it made available to the Public, yet Ancestry insist on charging more money to have it viewed.
Wikitree, Familysearch, LancsOPC, LancsBMD, FreeReg, FreeBMD, FreeCen and many others do not charge. 
Remember that we paid our taxes to Councils and Governments to Record all this information in the first instance and they had no right to sell it to the Shysters to make Profit.
I'll try another Library in a bigger town, one with a Family History Centre hopefully
cheers, Ian

Ancestry own the equipment where the data is stored hence they have every right to charge to access it.

Try visiting the archives, they will have free access computers that include Ancestry etc.

On another tack, £90 a year for Worldwide access subscription is not exactly a vast sum of money yet it gives so much readily available data plus the best DNA test out there.

[Ian Nelson]

...and all the other Providers own their data storage servers and YET THEY DON'T CHARGE to access it.Did you note my Post on the business model that says ' Why sell it when you can rent, lease, lend or licence it and get repeat fees way beyond the cost of provision.  It is called ' Profiteering' and you say they have 'EVERY RIGHT' .. well I don't think so, they have manipulated themselves into the position of having the 'Power' to charge money for something that was in the public domain in the first instance.  They are not the only people to do it ... most videos on Youtube and the like are provided freely by content contributors yet you will be inundated by advertisements to view something which was provided FREE.
I submitted my Novella to SMASHWORDS to be distibuted FREE to anyone who wishes to read or download it.   Check out SCRIBD website ... they will allow you to read 30 pages yet if you wish to read further you have to pay them.  How many different kinds of theft and basic dishonesty is that. Not unlike Ancestry FindMyPast and others, eh!?
cheers, Ian

[familydar]

Ian, I believe that tree owners can send a clickable link to anybody, who can use that link to access the tree in question.  Go to tree settings, my trees and in the role column there will either be an "invite family" link or "nn people invited".  The owner needs to click that link, decide what role to assign to the invitee, click on "copy link" (you can't see the link being copied, not terribly user-friendly) then paste that link into an email or message to the recipient.  If the invitee doesn't have an Ancestry account they'll need to create one but it will be a free account with no strings.  When I've been a recipient I tend to use my normal Ancestry login, I have quite a number of trees shared with me and it keeps them all in one place.  I am able to view them regardless of whether I have a subscription or not.  What I can't see without a sub is sources.

Jane :-)

[Ian Nelson]

Thanks everyone for your advice and guidance ... however, I'm curious as to what services are available at Irvine library's Heritage Centre and I'll allow the staff to show me how to access whatever they can including the Ancestry Library Edition.
I received a 6 month Ancestry subscription a few years ago and I found next to nothing I hadn't already found from free sources.  This year, with the co-operation of my siblings, I purchased a Full year's subscription with FindMyPast with the intention of bombarding it with queries on behalf of all my sibling's spouses families as well.  I have found precious little that I didn't already have and will definitely be cancelling their AUTOMATIC renewal.
I only have 7 people in my list of either 'brick walls' or 'not quite sure that's true' and this FindMyPast subscription is our attempt to resolve what can be resolved before the sub's up.
After that, I'm passing the baton to younger generations and going to spend more time 'pastiming' before it's too late.
cheers medears, Ian
 

[Biggles50]

It does get to a diminishing returns state with a Family Tree, a lot of effort for not a lot of movement in information.

DNA can help in breaking down those brick walls if you have not yet tested.

It has broken down some for me and my Wife and added over 100 branches to DNA Cousins which in turn gives an understanding of the family movement through the generations.

Having your DNA tested would also be good for your following generation.

[Ian Nelson]

... Irvine Library's Family History Centre has never heard of AncestryLibraryEdition and they charge £7 per hour to assist members of the public.   The assistant phoned her colleague at Kilmarnock Library Family History Centre and she had never heard of AncestryLibraryEdition either. 
To my mind, you might think that a Revelation of Special Access to Ancestry for Libraries would have been of great interest, but the member of the public who was being 'helped' ( @ £7. per hour) showed great interest, the assistant ... ZILCH.
I've emailed my distant cousin and requested she email me with her *.ged file as an attachment.
Beyond that I have no interest in collecting others' family trees.   Distant cousins the Chapman family have been pioneers in Family Research since long before the Internet and have amassed thousands of ancestors, some of them in countries I have never heard of, and MyHeritage sends me 'Why don't you send a personal birthday message to this cousin' even though they are dead.
I have set a deadline to my Quest and it is when my subscription to FindMyPast expires ... then I'm going Magnet-Fishing or Beach-combing and when it is raining it'll be Snooker.
cheers, Ian