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Elizabeth Collins b. 1858 d. 1951 help with date of photo please
« on: Monday 11 September 23 05:34 BST (UK) »
Grateful for any help to determine the age of this, sadly unnamed and undated photo please.
Likely to have been taken somewhere in a small country town in Victoria, Australia.
Likely suspected subject is Elizabeth Collins b. 1858 d. 1951.
Photo is contained in a leather and velvet case.
Thanks so much for any assistance.
Kerry in Brisbane
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Re: Elizabeth Collins b. 1858 d. 1951 help with date of photo please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 September 23 08:22 BST (UK) »
I would suggest early (1860ish) Victorian.

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Re: Elizabeth Collins b. 1858 d. 1951 help with date of photo please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 September 23 10:31 BST (UK) »
Hi
The hair style and clothing suggests that this was more like 1858 than someone born in that year. I'd suggest late 1850s to 1860s.

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Re: Elizabeth Collins b. 1858 d. 1951 help with date of photo please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 September 23 10:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for the awesome info.  Bearing this in mind I'm thinking the photo might depict  Elizabeth's mum, Lousia Collins (nee Dickett) b. 1828 Wiltshire, England d. 1908 Victoria, Australia.  Or possibly Elizabeth's mother-in-law.  Thanks so very much.
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Re: Elizabeth Collins b. 1858 d. 1951 help with date of photo please
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 September 23 11:33 BST (UK) »
Agree with Gadget.
What you have is an ambrotype which dates it along with
the clothing mid 1850's - early 1860's & I suspect early 60's
so you are looking for someone born probably from 1790 - 1800.
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Re: Elizabeth Collins b. 1858 d. 1951 help with date of photo please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 September 23 12:36 BST (UK) »
This is gold.  So grateful.  So maybe one more generation back still. Louisa's mum was baptised in Milford in 1803 as Ann Geary Cromey and lived in Wiltshire until her death at Britford in 1884. Elizabeth's other grandmother was born Elizabeth Jerrett in Pitton, Wiltshire in 1785.  She was buried in the same town in 1865. So another candidate there.  Of course there is the possibility the photo belongs to Elizabeth's grandmothers in law.  However she bears a strong resemblance not only to my grandmother but also to myself. So I feel confident she is also an ancestor to my great great grandmother Harriet (Elizabeth's sister).  Quite surprised that family resemblances could travel that far down the line but I guess it's just like any other part of your DNA.
Once again so incredibly grateful for sharing your knowledge so generously.
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Re: Elizabeth Collins b. 1858 d. 1951 help with date of photo please
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 September 23 22:30 BST (UK) »
What a lovely photo to have kctoo, in such good condition too.
Carol
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Re: Elizabeth Collins b. 1858 d. 1951 help with date of photo please
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 September 23 00:34 BST (UK) »
Thanks Carol, I wish it were mine. However I am grateful my cousin came to me and let me know she had it.  At least I get to see it even if it just digitally.  As most of my ancestors came to Australia escaping poverty of industrial England and Scotland in the 1850's they had very little and for some time. And so this is only the second photo of some one of this generation of my family I have seen.  Additionally, I only have copies of photos of 4 people in the younger generation. Even my for my great great grandparents generation I still have not managed to uncover photos of 6 of 16 of them.  Some lost in tragic circumstances, some unwittingly or maliciously destroyed and some never taken. Such a shame.
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Re: Elizabeth Collins b. 1858 d. 1951 help with date of photo please
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 14 September 23 20:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Kerry, I gave it a bit of a touch up and recolour for you.
Carol
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