Dave - sorry this is so long. If you can help I will be most grateful.
First of all I should say that this is not my family, therefore I don’t have a tree as such, though I have tried to put a partial one together. We first became interested in Marie Schuster-Hiby when we visited her house, Haus Wylerberg. Since we know the area around the Dutch/German border quite well, we wanted to know more. We got to know Jeroen van Zuylen, an academic from Nijmegen, who has connections with the present-day house and wrote a book about it. We learnt a lot about Marie from his book, but this still didn’t tell us all we wanted to know about the Hibys and why their family memorial is in Kleve. My husband is currently writing a book about Kleve and wanted to know more.
Another book, Die Bellevue, Perle des 18. Jahrhunderts in Kleve, describes the history of the house in Kleve which became the Hiby family home in the late 1880s. This book gives some details of the family’s history and goes a long way towards explaining how and why the Hibys settled in Kleve. In both these books we found photos of Marie and her family.
I have scoured the Family Search and Ancestry websites for information about the Hiby family, births, marriages, deaths, recording those which say they are from reputable sources, such as church registers. I have also looked at family trees for clues rather than facts and have noted information which seems to agree in each of them, but am aware that they may also contain some inaccuracies, depending on the skills of the researchers. There are several websites referring to various members of the family and their places of residence.
I start with Wilhelm Hiby 1810-1888, born in Sprockhövel. I will call him William 1, since the family always called the oldest boy Wilhelm. Wilhelm 1 married Caroline Unterste Pöting, who brought property to the marriage, the start to Wilhelm 1’s rise to wealth. He also owned mines. They had at least 2 children, among them two that interested me - Lina 1842-1887 and Wilhelm 11 1835-1887. Lina married Wilhelm 11’s university friend Carlos Otto,
https://www.pd-refractories.com/files/Dokumente/Aktuelles_Flyer_Dr-C-Otto_181120.pdf pioneer of coking technology. A partnership and shares in Dr Carlos Otto’s business enterprise brought wealth to both Wilhelm 1 and 11.
Wilhelm 11 married Julie Stein 1841-1906, born Düsseldorf, an orphaned but wealthy woman and daughter of Johann Peter Stein 1783-1842 and Gertrud Schriever 1799-1842. They had 3 children – Marie 2 Sept 1867 – 14 May 1949, Wilhelm 111 1870 - 1929, Walter ………. I have been searching for their births or christenings without success, I’m afraid…. Have also tried the registers of Lutheran BMDs, but there are numerous websites with bits of information about the Hiby family, and some of the dates for family members differ. Julie’s sister Charlotte married Mathias Heinrich Goering, hence the distant family relationship frequently referred to between Marie Schuster and Hermann Goering, who is named variously as a distant cousin or descriptions such as a cousin of Marie’s mother’s aunt, etc. , a relationship that I am still trying to clarify.
Marie Hiby married Heinrich Schuster in 1890 and had daughter Alice, Wilhelm 111 married Cornelia Korn. Their children were Wilhelm 1V, Erika and Hans. Wilhelm Werner 1V b 1907, Erika b 1909 and Hans b 1913.
Erika married Hans Joachim Werth and had children Wolf, Peter and Jan Willem. The grand family memorial in Kleve is known as the Hiby-Werth memorial. Peter Werth seems to be referred to as the family member responsible for maintenance of the memorial and the keeper of the family history from articles I have read.
References
Die Bellevue. Perle des 18 Jahrhunderts in Kleve. Ursula Geisselbecht-Capecki
Haus Wylerberg, ein Grenzfall/Huis Wylerberg, een grensgeval Jeroen van Zuylen
Marriage entry for Lina Hiby and Carlos Otto showing that her parents were Wilhelm 1 and Carolina Unterste Pöting*
Death entry for Willhelm Hiby 11, showing his parents were Wilhelm 1 and Carolina Unterste Pöting*
Death entry for Julie Hiby nee Stein, showing her parents as Johann Stein and Gertrud Schriever*
Entries on Family search showing birth of Julie Hiby nee Stein to Johann Peter Stein and Gertrud Schriever
Online references including some family trees, though they do not always agree in dates, however those I have given above appear to be substantiated..
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Basically I am looking for confirmation of the births/christenings of siblings Marie Schuster-Hiby, Wilhelm 111 and Walter Hiby, children of Wihelm Hiby 11 and Julie nee Stein.
