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Lionel Richard Searle
« on: Monday 11 September 23 17:53 BST (UK) »
Looking for parents of Lionel Richard Searle married Indiana Gurney in Lambeth 1894 Indiana died 5 years later. I can't find any children.
Any help would be grateful Thanks.
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Re: Lionel Richard Searle
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 September 23 18:22 BST (UK) »
I'm sure you have been given guidance before on this kind of thing.

Use the gro index to find all the Searle births from marriage til death and cross ref mother maiden name
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Re: Lionel Richard Searle
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 September 23 19:42 BST (UK) »
Indiana was 45 when she died in 1899 so was 40 when she married.  Was Gurney her birth surname or was she previously married?  If she was previously married any possible births would show her birth surname

You don't give any details of where or when Lionel was born.  His birth reg is on freebmd in 1843 so you can use GRO online to find his mmn.  Look for him on the 1851 to establish his parents names

Lionel only died in 1933 so have you looked on the 1901&1911 censuses in case any children are shown
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Re: Lionel Richard Searle
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 September 23 19:48 BST (UK) »
They were together in 1891 where Lionel was aged 47 and born in London.

SEARLE, LIONEL  RICHARD
Mother's maiden surname: FRITH     
GRO Reference: 1843  S Quarter in OF SAINT GEORGE THE MARTYR SOUTHWARK  Volume 04  Page 422

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Re: Lionel Richard Searle
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 September 23 20:20 BST (UK) »
According to Lionel's baptism record 27th August 1843 on FindMyPast his parents were John & JaneSearl.

The actual image on Anc* records same dob, parents John Frederick Searle -Fishmonger and Jane

1851 census ref

Piece number 1563
Folio 206
Page 34

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Re: Lionel Richard Searle
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 September 23 20:52 BST (UK) »
Lionel's mother Jane was nee' Crisp baptised 1815 Camberwell, parents John & Mary.

Jane Crisp married John F Searle 28th August 1833 St Giles, Camberwell.

Not sure where the mmn "Frith" comes in yet

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added, in 1851 census there is a son Alfred, wonder if it's a misreading of mmn by Gro

Crisp/Frith

SEARLE, ALFRED  CHARLES     mmn CRISP 
GRO Reference: 1838  M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE THE MARTYR SOUTHWARK  Volume 04  Page 115

death of father

SEARLE, JOHN       33 
GRO Reference: 1843  M Quarter in OF SAINT GEORGE THE MARTYR SOUTHWARK  Volume 04  Page 317

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Re: Lionel Richard Searle
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 September 23 21:14 BST (UK) »
Family in 1841 ref

Piece number 1085
Folio number 37
Page number 24

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SEARLE, ELIZABETH  ELLEN     CRISP 
GRO Reference: 1839  D Quarter in OF SAINT GEORGE THE MARTYR SOUTHWARK  Volume 04  Page 386

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Re: Lionel Richard Searle
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 September 23 21:32 BST (UK) »
SEARLE, ALFRED  CHARLES     mmn CRISP
GRO Reference: 1838  M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE THE MARTYR SOUTHWARK  Volume 04  Page 115

Married 4.3.1863 Elizabeth Caroline Snook/Snork--his father John Frederick Searles-occ Fish Salesman

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Re: Lionel Richard Searle
« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 September 23 23:42 BST (UK) »
In the 1851 census Jane SEARL is with her children Lionel (7), Alfred (13) and John (16).
They are living with her brothers Charles CRISP (34 fish seller), William CRISP (49)
and her mother Mary CRISP (74)
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