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Edwin Henry Gavell
« on: Wednesday 13 September 23 11:49 BST (UK) »
Hi All
I am trying to find the marriage of Edwin Henry Gavell. He was born in 1852, in Shoreditch, the son of Joseph and Hannah Gavell.
In the 1891 census his wife's name is given as Annie, born about 1860 in Bethnal Green,  with their first child, Maud my ancestor, born about 1887.
Any help will be gratefully received.
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Re: Edwin Henry Gavell
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 13 September 23 12:33 BST (UK) »
There seems to be no sign of a marriage after searching on variations of both Edwin’s first and surnames.

Maud’s  mother’s maiden name is shown as WELFORD, unless she had been married previously, any marriage should show up between GAVELL and WELFORD.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Edwin Henry Gavell
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 13 September 23 15:53 BST (UK) »
Are they alive in 1911?  That census asks for number of years married **

** 27 years
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Edwin Henry Gavell
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 13 September 23 15:59 BST (UK) »
Son Joseph has mothers maiden name MITCHELL if I am looking at the right birth.

Jun 1890 Bethnal Green

Next son Edwin has WELFORD

Maybe a different family - marriage Annie Mitchell to John Joseph/Joseph John Gavell in 1882

Or is it?  Annie Harriet and Lily both have Mitchell and all those children are together in 1911 with Edwin & Annie.
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos


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Re: Edwin Henry Gavell
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 13 September 23 16:09 BST (UK) »
There are other Gavell/Mitchell births before your Maud is born so will see who they belong to.

Annie Sarah Jun 1883
Florence Alice Sep 1886

Your Maud Emily is Dec 1887

Sorry I've confused things.
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Edwin Henry Gavell
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 September 23 18:58 BST (UK) »
Maud’s  mother’s maiden name is shown as WELFORD

GAVELL, MAUD  EMILY     
Mother's Maiden Surname WELFORD 
GRO Reference: 1887  D Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 01C  Page 153

In the 1891 census his wife's name is given as Annie, born about 1860 in Bethnal Green,  with their first child, Maud my ancestor, born about 1887.

In Haggerston, Shoreditch
45 Weymouth Terrace
Edward Gavell 34 Shoemaker, born London Hackney
Emily Gavell 29 London Chelsea
Maud Gavell 3 London Hackney

Birth
GAVELL, EDWIN       
Mother's Maiden Surname: WELFORD 
GRO Reference: 1891  J Quarter in SHOREDITCH  Volume 01C  Page 121

Baptism, 28 April 1891, St Chad, Haggerston
Edwin
Parents Edwin + Emily Gavell
45 Weymouth Terrace
Father Boot finisher

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Re: Edwin Henry Gavell
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 September 23 19:02 BST (UK) »
A possible theory, starting at 1881 census

Edwin Henry Gavell born mq 1852 mmn Jay*
John Joseph Gavell born mq 1857 mmn Jory  **
Emily Gavell born sq 1866 mmn Jay.

** Joseph John Gavell marries Annie Mitchell 18.6.1882--all subsequent children are Gavell/Mitchell

Edwin Henry Gavell has a "partner/wife Emily Sarah (Welford) who I believe married March Taylor in sq 1878

GAVELL, MAUD  EMILY     mmn WELFORD 
GRO Reference: 1887  D Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 01C  Page 153

GAVELL, EDWIN       WELFORD 
GRO Reference: 1891  J Quarter in SHOREDITCH  Volume 01C  Page 121

1891 census

Edward Gavell 34 shoemaker
Emily 29 (born Chelsea)
Maud 3

1901 census

Edward Gavell 38 Dock Lab
Emily 37
Maud 13
Edward (Edwin) 10

Deaths of

GAVELL, JOHN  JOSEPH     50  ( husband of Annie)
GRO Reference: 1907  M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 01C  Page 123

GAVELL, EMILY       45  ( wife/partner of Edwin Henry)
GRO Reference: 1906  S Quarter in SHOREDITCH  Volume 01C  Page 89

Edwin/Edward and Annie move in together pre 1911 census, thus a mixture of Welford/Mitchell children

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Re: Edwin Henry Gavell
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 September 23 19:04 BST (UK) »
Sorry jonw65 no red box for some reason

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Re: Edwin Henry Gavell
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 September 23 19:09 BST (UK) »
That sounds like a good theory!