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Re: Edwin Henry Gavell
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 14 September 23 08:52 BST (UK) »
Like all good theories "one fly in the ointment". Not now 100% sure Emily Sarah Welford is the correct partner to Edwin/Edward Gavell. He certainly had a "Welford" partner

1. March Taylor married Emily Sarah Welford in 1878
2. 2 Children born, Emily Susan Taylor 1879 & March Thomas Taylor 1881. Both have mmn Welford.
3. By 1887 March Taylor snr is co-habiting with an Emma Read (born Birmingham c 1866) and their 1st child Annie Maria Taylor born 1888 mmn Read, all subsequent children have mmn Read.
4. Emily Gavell partner to Edwin/Edward on both 1891/1901 census and Emily diesSQ 1906
5. March Taylor then marries Emma Read 19th November 1906.

However in 1901 census

Piece   233
Folio   118
Page number   17

Emily Taylor 43
March Taylor 20
Emily Taylor 18.

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Re: Edwin Henry Gavell
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 16 September 23 09:01 BST (UK) »
Not that this helps finding a marriage.

Did your Maud Gavell marry a Walker?

London Electoral Register address 27, St. Peter Street, Bethnal Green
Year 1920 same address year 1934

Edwin Gavell Snr & Junior
Annie Gavell
Maud Walker

Free advanced search 1921c using above address only

Annie  Gavell 1861 Bethnal Green, London
Annie  Gavell 1897 Bethnal Green, London
Edwin Gavell 1852 Hackney, London
Edwin Gavell 1891 Hackney, London
Lily Gavell 1901 Bethnal Green, London
Maud Walker 1887 Hackney

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Edwin Gavell 1853, Annie 1860, Maude 1887, Joseph 1890, Edwin 1892, Annie 1898 & Lily 1901
Address 27 St Peter St, Bethnal Green, London in 1911

Edwin Gavell
Electoral Date   1912
Street Address   27 St. Peter Street
Ward or Division/Constituency   Bethnal Green North East
County or Borough   Tower Hamlets

Edwin Henry Gavell
Maud Emily Walker
Electoral Date   1933
Street Address   27 St. Peter Street
Ward or Division/Constituency   Bethnal Green
County or Borough   Tower Hamlets

No Gavell's on ER with Maud Emily Walker year 1939
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Re: Edwin Henry Gavell
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 16 September 23 13:23 BST (UK) »
Ladyhawk, looks as though Maud did marry.

Marriages Sep 1917 
Gavell    Maud E    Walker    Shoreditch    1c   87   
Walker    Arthur O (Owen)    Gavell    Shoreditch    1c   87   

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Edwin Gavell is a witness

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Re: Edwin Henry Gavell
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 16 September 23 14:02 BST (UK) »
Name   Arthur Owen Walker

Australia, World War I Service Records, 1914-1920

Age   36
Birth Year   abt 1878
Birth Place   London, England
Dossier Year Range   1914-1920
Enlistment Place   Sydney, New South Wales
Service Number   3484
Spouse   
Maud Walker
Next of Kin   Maud Walker  (address given as 27, St Peter's Street,Hackney

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Re: Edwin Henry Gavell
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 16 September 23 14:46 BST (UK) »

MS Maud Emily Walker still at "27, St Peter's Street/Ave in 1939 electoral register.

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added, possible  death of Maud (same dob as per 1939 war register)

Name   Maude Emily Walker
Death Age   87
Birth Date   27 Sep 1887
Registration Date   Oct 1974
[Nov 1974]
[Dec 1974]
Registration Quarter   Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district   Hackney
Inferred County   Greater London
Volume   12
Page   1400

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Arthur O Walker
abt 1884   Oct 1964   Oct-Nov-Dec   Hackney   London

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Re: Edwin Henry Gavell
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 16 September 23 18:18 BST (UK) »

I am trying to find the marriage of Edwin Henry Gavell. He was born in 1852, in Shoreditch, the son of Joseph and Hannah Gavell.


A marriage for Edwin if he did marry  is proving pretty elusive  ???


first child, Maud my ancestor, born about 1887.


Do you have Maud’s birth certificate ? If you do, what are her parents names, father's occupation, address and who was present at birth?

Is this her birth entry?


GAVELL, MAUD  EMILY     mmn WELFORD 
GRO Reference: 1887  D Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 01C  Page 153


If you don’t have the b/c you can order a digital image of the above entry from GRO for £2.50, once the payment is completed a link to the image is provided.

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Do you have Edwin's 1933 death certificate? Who registered his death?

R3569   Edwin Henry Gavell age 81
Burial    11 Nov 1933 City of London & Tower Hamlets Cemetery
Abode 27 St Peters Street, Bethnal Green






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Re: Edwin Henry Gavell
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 16 September 23 18:54 BST (UK) »
Until OP answers findings so far found I'm moving on.

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Re: Edwin Henry Gavell
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 16 September 23 21:52 BST (UK) »
Until OP answers findings so far found I'm moving on.

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I’m just adding this as I think like jonw65 your suggestion that Edwin & Annie Gavell are living together after the death of their respective spouse/partner seems to be a very good theory - ie Annie Gavell nee Mitchell looks to be the sister in law of Edwin Henry Gavell but no marriage found for Edwin Gavell to Emily Welford

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/166314/john-gavell/

SERJEANT JOHN GAVELL
Service Number: 10661
Regiment & Unit/Ship
Middlesex Regiment 1st Bn.
Died 04 October 1915
Son of Mrs. A. Gavell, of 27, St. Peter's St., Hackney Rd., London.
In loving Memory of My Dear Son gone but not forgotten

John Henry Gavell born Oct 18th
Baptism 9 Nov 1884 St Jude, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets
Father John Joseph Gavell Mother    Annie

GAVELL, JOHN  HENRY     mmn MITCHELL
GRO Reference: 1884  D Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 01C  Page 176



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