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Alexander Macleod and Helen Campbell
« on: Thursday 14 September 23 15:06 BST (UK) »
Hi
I am looking into the parents of Peter Campbell Macleod, born 15th June, 1839 to Alexander Macleod, seaman, and Helen Campbell in Greenock New or Middle, Renfrewshire.

Peter had two brothers, Alexander born 1833, and Norman born 1838, both born in Renfrewshire.

In the 1841 Census, Helen is living in Broad Close, Greenock Middle, with her three sons. She is shown as being born outwith  the county and running a lodginghouse. Also residing there is Helen Campbell, aged 60, born outwith the county, whom I assume is Helen’s mother.

When Peter married Janot Orr in 1866, his parents are shown as Alexander McLeod, seaman, deceased, and Helen Campbell.

Peter dies in 1916, and his parents are shown as Alexander McLeod, seaman, deceased, and Helen Campbell, subsequently Campbell, deceased.

I can’t see any further obvious Census records for Helen, nor a marriage to anyone called Campbell between 1866 and 1916.

Any further information on Alexander Macleod and Helen Campbell, and their sons Alexander and Norman, would be greatly appreciated.

Charlie
Fife: Shepherd, Nellies, Beveridge, Litster, Simpson
Lanarkshire: Sorbie
WRY: Simpson, Brooksbank

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Re: Alexander Macleod and Helen Campbell
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 September 23 16:44 BST (UK) »
Have you found any marriage for Alexander & Helen?

Have you found them in 1851 to establish Helen's birthplace?
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Re: Alexander Macleod and Helen Campbell
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 September 23 16:58 BST (UK) »
The Peter Campbell McLeod (not MacLeod)  b 1839 was b 26.5.1839 - not 15.6.1839
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Re: Alexander Macleod and Helen Campbell
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 September 23 09:56 BST (UK) »
I note birth or baptism for Peter on SP but not the others, where did you find their records?

MCLEOD   PETER CAMPBELL   ALEXANDER MCLEOD HELEN CAMPBELL   26/05/1839   GREENOCK NEW OR MIDDLE

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Re: Alexander Macleod and Helen Campbell
« Reply #4 on: Friday 15 September 23 11:37 BST (UK) »
Who were the witnesses at Peter's marriage?

Have you looked at the marriages in Greenock of Alexander McLeod, particularly the 1857 one.

There is also a marriage in Paisley for a Norman McLeod in the same year.

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Re: Alexander Macleod and Helen Campbell
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 September 23 13:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Carole

My mistake, Peter was born 15th May 1839 and baptized 26th May 1839.

There are 142 results for Hel*en M*cle*d in the 1851 Census, none of which stand out, ie in Renfrew or surrounding counties.

The only marriage on SP between an Al* M*cle*d and Hel*en Campbell is in Perth in 1762.

And no obvious marriage between a Hel*en Campbell/M*l*d to a Campbell.

There is an Alexander M*cle*d living in Greenock in the 1851 Census. He is the correct age and is Head of the House, living with his Uncle William, and both working as grocers. But I don’t know if he is mine.

There are no deaths for a Norman or Al* M*l*d mmn Campbell.

Peter Cambell M*leod is recorded as Peter Campbell in the 1871, 1881 and 1891 censuses. but his children were registered as McLeod.

Fife: Shepherd, Nellies, Beveridge, Litster, Simpson
Lanarkshire: Sorbie
WRY: Simpson, Brooksbank

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Re: Alexander Macleod and Helen Campbell
« Reply #6 on: Friday 15 September 23 13:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Colin

Alexander and Norman are shown in the 1841 census with Peter and their mother.

Charlie
Fife: Shepherd, Nellies, Beveridge, Litster, Simpson
Lanarkshire: Sorbie
WRY: Simpson, Brooksbank

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Re: Alexander Macleod and Helen Campbell
« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 September 23 13:27 BST (UK) »
The witnesses to Peter;s marriage are both named Johnston.

The marriages for Alexander and Norman up to 1885 in Renfrewshire all show different parents.
Fife: Shepherd, Nellies, Beveridge, Litster, Simpson
Lanarkshire: Sorbie
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Re: Alexander Macleod and Helen Campbell
« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 September 23 14:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Colin

Alexander and Norman are shown in the 1841 census with Peter and their mother.

Charlie

Hi Charlie,
I posed the question because I could not find birth/baptisms in Scotland parents Alexander & Helen but there are records for the names in the period, father Alexander, it crossed my mind that Alexander may have been married before he meet Helen?

I did check to see if I could find a record for Helen born 1810-1812 (30 on 1841 census), only one in Scotland mother Helen, below.

HELLEN CAMPBELL 08/09/1810 LETHENDY AND KINLOCH, Perthshire.
PETER CAMPBELL/HELLEN REID

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