Isabel Stephenson

[The Mountie]

Hi,

I’m new to English genealogy and tbh I’m really struggling.

My mother Isabel Stephenson was born Newcastle 20/10/1926.

Her father was George Frederick Stephenson, born 20/01/1893.
Her mother was Elizabeth Jane Dodds.

Her grandfather was Samuel Stephenson, born 1867.

Elizabeth Jane Dodds’ father was John Robert Dodds, born June 1871.

Mt mother was Catholic, and I’ve always had a vague notion there is Irish ancestry in there, but I’ve hit a brick wall.

Does this tie in with anybody else’s history?

[CaroleW]

If you haven’t found any evidence of Irish ancestry via census returns etc - have you considered doing a DNA test?

I notice you have only listed the male line - could there be Irish origins in the wives of the above?

Samuel married Margaret Hall 1888 - he was b Yorkshire according to the 1891 census & Mgt was b Northumberland

Have you traced either line backwards to establish any Irish possibility?

If you have - and found no proof - why do you think there is Irish ancestry?

[amondg]

1881 census 14 Plummer Street Newcastle

Eliza Dodds  wd 43 born Scotland
Joseph 22
James 20
Ellen 12
*John Robert 9 born Newcastle
*Margaret Ann 7 born Newcastle
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1871 census Newcastle , 14 Railway Street
Robert 33 born Scotland
Eliza 33
Joseph 12
James 10
Jane 5
*Ellen 2 born Newcastle
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The children born Newcastle have mothers maiden name HUGHES

Do you have John Robert Dodds birth certificate?

1939 says he was born 20 April 1871

Birth registration Newcastle Upon Tyne June quarter 1871 Vol. 10B page 25

If it has the correct DOB or is off just a little I have the correct family.
 

[The Mountie]

Thank you for your reply.

The attachments are everything I have…

[amondg]

Samuel Stephenson age 21 married Margaret Hall age 23 - at St Andrew, Newcastle 17 September 1888.

His father Charles James Stephenson
Her father Andrew Hall

Ref: transcription on ancestry.
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1891 census 68 Morpeth Road

Samuel Stephenson 24 general lab born York
Margaret 25 born Chippington? Northumberland
Laura age 6months born Newcastle
James HALL lodger 21 born Bidlington Northumberland (he is probably Margaret's brother)

Wife Margaret dies 1900 age 35.

1901 census
Samuel 34
Laura 10
George  T (s/b F) 8
Allan T 6   (registered as Albert Thomas)
W. G  3   (registered as Walter Gladstone)
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GRO Index Samuel and Margaret had the following children all with mother's maiden name HALL
registered Newcastle Upon Tyne
Emily 1889    - died 1889 
Laura 1890
George Frederick 1893
Albert Thomas 1895
Mary Ann 1896  - died 1896
Walter Gladstone 1898


 

[amondg]

Sorry posted before I read your chart.

Margaret HALL is wife of Samuel and her father is Andrew Hall

[The Mountie]

Sorry posted before I read your chart.

Margaret HALL is wife of Samuel and her father is Andrew Hall

Definitely sounds like the same family

[The Mountie]

As I said in my original post, I have a vague recollection from childhood (which is a long time ago) that they were Catholic and had Irish origins.
How could I progress that line of enquiry ?

[amondg]

Possible Robert Dodds age 41 death registered 1879 New Castle December quarter.

Ages of the others named Robert Dodds do not fit and we know he died before 1881 census.

1861 census Scotland Berwickshire
James Hughes 49
Isabella 56
Henry 26
William 24
James   20
Jane 18
Helen 16
John 13
Joseph DODDS 2 grand son born Buncle Berwickshire.

So it looks like James and Isabella are Eliza Hughes parents.

The Stephenson' seems to be Anglican or C of E so if there is Catholic in your line it would appear to be from the Scottish line.

Look for the baptism of the in Newcastle that will tell you.