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Le Roy de Guerin marriage/s
« on: Thursday 21 September 23 03:39 BST (UK) »
For some time I have been trying to find information as to who Le Roy Taunton de Guerin married.  In S.A. Genealogy it appears he married Ruth Ethel Tomlinson on 26 October, 1926 in St. John's Church, Adelaide.  He had two daughters, now both deceased.
However, his headstone reads that he "died in Myrtle Bank (Adelaide, S.A.) on 10 September, 1946 aged 60 years. Loved husband of Elizabeth and father of Ruth and Joan".
The only account of Leroy on SA Genealogy is his marriage in October 1926.  He was apparently born in Adelaide on 1 April, 1886 but no birth is shown.  His parents were Harry Robin and Alice Mary.
So, my question is, did Leroy marry twice?  Or was his wife Ruth Ethel or Elizabeth Mary (both surnames being Tomlinson).
There is a death on SA Gen. for an "Elizabeth Ruth" who died 20 Feb. 1971 aged 70.  The relative who apparently gave the information, was Leroy Taunton de Guerin (DH). District was Port Adelaide.
I would be very grateful if someone could figure all this out for me please, as I am completely baffled!
I have also seen his name shown as "Guerin" without the "de".
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Re: Le Roy de Guerin marriage/s
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 September 23 04:33 BST (UK) »
His death notice says husband of Ruth Ethel, and daughters Ruth and Joan.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/93122588

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Re: Le Roy de Guerin marriage/s
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 September 23 04:38 BST (UK) »
The death notice also says ex 43rd batt, 1st AIF. His army record has not been digitised as far as I can see, it may contain additional information about his family.

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Re: Le Roy de Guerin marriage/s
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 September 23 04:40 BST (UK) »
His ww1 army record is in Ancestry
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: Le Roy de Guerin marriage/s
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 September 23 05:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks neale, here they are under "GUERIN".
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=4391883

Interesting that the police report of his death to the coroner does not mention his wife. It does have a statement from his sister Irene MacINDOE.

Electoral rolls show him with  Ruth Ethel in 1943, though not in 1941 or 1939.

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Re: Le Roy de Guerin marriage/s
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 September 23 05:26 BST (UK) »

The only account of Leroy on SA Genealogy is his marriage in October 1926.  He was apparently born in Adelaide on 1 April, 1886 but no birth is shown. 

This would be his birth:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01sob/

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Re: Le Roy de Guerin marriage/s
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 September 23 06:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks Maddys,  I was checking for de Guerin for birth.  As I said, he shows up both with/without the "de".  If Ruth Ellen was his wife, then why does his Gravestone at West Tce. Cemetery, show his wife as Elizabeth? His daughters are shown as Ruth and Joan though and the date of death is correct.
Perhaps it might be worthwhile applying for a transcript from SA Genealogy of both his marriage and death.
I could not see that Ruth Ellen remarried (she possibly d. in 1971) (as apparently did "Elizabeth Ruth")!!  I only have Ruth's marriage to Le Roy Taunton Guerin.  No birth for her either, unless she was born in W.A. in 1899 with parents Peter and Hannah Tomlinson!!  It is certainly a mystery!!
Perhaps Le Roy and Ruth parted company and he then had an "Elizabeth" as a long time partner, hence her name being on his headstone.   
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Re: Le Roy de Guerin marriage/s
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 September 23 06:38 BST (UK) »
I have tried looking for a death for Ruth Ethel de Guerin.  As she possibly died in Port Adelaide area, I checked a number of cemeteries but only found two with that surname (minus the de) but none of them seem to be related.  Both Le Roy and his wife (whichever one she was) seem to be a bit mysterious).  Ruth Ellen Tomlinson was certainly a wife, but for how long??

I couldn't find the statement from his sister Irenee Macindoe (she was Le Roy's eldest sister) or the police report of Le Roy's death to the coroner.  Presumably there were suspicious circumstances.
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Re: Le Roy de Guerin marriage/s
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 September 23 07:12 BST (UK) »
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article35755586
Death Notice from The Advertiser

de GUERIN. —On September 10, at Myrtlebank, Le Roy Taunton de Guerin, of 160 Carrington street, City (ex-43rd Batt., 1st A.I.F.), dearly beloved husband of Ruth Ethel and loving father of Ruth
and Joan. Aged 60 years.
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