Owen Wren - about 1841

[samleonard91]

Hi All,

I am trying to track down more information around Owen Wren born 1841 in Roscommon, Ireland.

I know his father is called Stephen Wren as this is on his marriage cert (8th Sep 1866, Halifax), but do not know much else about him.

Does anyone know how I can find more information around his birth and his parents?

Thanks
Sam

[gaffy]

Welcome. 

I struggled to find anything meaningful on this, though I did wonder if the surname Wren could possibly have alternated as Warren, for the Tithe Applotment Books show a Stephen Warren in the townland of Drumlish in the civil parish of Clooncraff (1842):

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587424/004587424_00013.pdf

Drumlish: https://www.townlands.ie/roscommon/roscommon/clooncraff/creeve/drumlish/

Aughrim RC parish registers (same vicinity) show a Stephen Warren marrying a Maria McDermott on 11 December 1834, witnessed by John Brennan and Eleanor McGowan (right page, 4 entries up from bottom):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633877#page/160/mode/1up

But other than these couple of Warren references, that was it. Hopefully other eyes will find something for you.

[Cas (stallc)]

Welcome to Rootschat

1871 mistranscibed on Anc.. as Ring, names Margaret as his mother
Piece   4396, Folio   60, Page number   25
Halifax

Owen Ring   30   Head Ireland
Eliza Ring 30   Wife Ireland
John Ring 3   Son Halifax
Margaret Ring 1   Daughter "
Rose Ring 3 mths   Daughter "
Margaret Ring 60   Mother, widow, Ireland


Looks likely infant death as not on following census with family.

WREN, ROSE    mother's maiden   MCGOVERN 
GRO Reference: 1871  M Quarter in HALIFAX  Volume 09A  Page 448

Deaths Sep Q 1871   
WREN    Rose    age 0    Halifax    9a   278

Cas

[gaffy]

Owen's mother being called Margaret in that 1871 census scuppers the 'Warren' folk in my previous post... I hadn't thought of 'Ring' as a surname alternative.

But in the light of that new information, what about the following marriage on 11 August 1836, in Kilronan RC parish, up to the north end of Roscommon and near the county borders with Leitrim and Sligo, it's for a Stephen 'Rynn' and Margaret Early, the witnesses were Peter Early and Catharine McDermott (left page, 4th entry down):

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632369#page/7/mode/1up

Just a possibility.

[Cas (stallc)]

Owen's mother being called Margaret in that 1871 census scuppers the 'Warren' folk in my previous post... I hadn't thought of 'Ring' as a surname alternative.

But in the light of that new information, what about the following marriage on 11 August 1836, in Kilronan RC parish, up to the north end of Roscommon and near the county borders with Leitrim and Sligo, it's for a Stephen 'Rynn' and Margaret Early, the witnesses were Peter Early and Catharine McDermott (left page, 4th entry down):

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632369#page/7/mode/1up

Just a possibility.

A good possible Gaffy...

When searching hints for me also came up with 'Ryan'

Cas

[gaffy]

I can't see 'Owen' per se, but I can see a son 'John' baptised in Kilronan RC parish on 8 January 1845 for Stephen Rynn and Margaret Early, the witnesses were Patrick and Margaret Matimore(?):

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632368#page/79/mode/1up (right page, 6th entry down)

[samleonard91]

Thanks so much for your help Cas, the census was sat on my ancestory all of this time and never noticed his mother was there!

[Cas (stallc)]

I can't see 'Owen' per se, but I can see a son 'John' baptised in Kilronan RC parish on 8 January 1845 for Stephen Rynn and Margaret Early, the witnesses were Patrick and Margaret Matimore(?):

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632368#page/79/mode/1up (right page, 6th entry down)

Gaffy - Not sure if that would connect as age/name out.

Sam - could you give witness names...addresses and fathers occ from marriage cert it may help. Was Stephen marked as deceased?

Cas

[samleonard91]

Hi Cas,

I am finding it difficult to read the marriage cert as the hand writing isn't very clear.

from what I can make our, Stephen Wren his father, was deceased at time of marriage (8th Sep 1866) He was a labourer.

Many thanks!