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What happened to Benjamin Robert Henry Wragg
« on: Wednesday 27 September 23 12:30 BST (UK) »
Benjamin Robert Henry Wragg died 1953, in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, age 80/81. He was buried in an unmarked grave in Lutwyche Cemetery, Kedron.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/239329809/benjamin-robert_henry-wragg

Benjamin was born in London, 1872, son of Robert Wragg & Frances Chappell or Chilcott. He joined the Metropolitan Police. He married Laura Eliza Harris, 1898 & had at least 4 children. Don't know what happened to him after 1921 census. I know all about his family history up until then.

 What I would like to know is what happened to him after 1921 & how he ended up in Australia in an unmarked grave.

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Re: What happened to Benjamin Robert Henry Wragg
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 13:22 BST (UK) »
Laura died in England

Laura E Wragg 93 Dec qtr 1965 Thanet  5f  774
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Re: What happened to Benjamin Robert Henry Wragg
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 13:36 BST (UK) »
Children

Violet Maude 1899 married Frederick William Klagge 1926.  Father Benjamin is shown as a sailor.  There is a 1939 entry for them.  Violet's 1899 baptism shows Benjamin as a driver.  Violet died 1998 Cheshire

Lilian Laura 1901 married Ernest Victor Nichols 1924 - father Sidney - policeman. Lilian died 1981 Bedfordshire 

Rita Emily 1903 married Albert E Daniels 1924 - There is a 1939 entry for them.  She died 1991 Essex

Sidney Benjamin 1909 - see below

A tree on Ancestry shows a number of Australian directory & ER entries but I don't have a WW sub.  Viewing them may show who he was living with.

Neither Benjamin or Laura appear to be on the 1939 register.  Laura Eliza Wrigg & Sidney Benjamin Wragg appear on a 1937 ER entry for Kensington

None of the 4 children appear to have emigrated
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Re: What happened to Benjamin Robert Henry Wragg
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 14:04 BST (UK) »
Sidney Benjamin Wragg died 1967 - administration granted to his sister - Lilian Laura Nichols

Benjamin's absence from the 1937 ER entry could possibly suggest he had deserted the family.  He was 65 by then so although not impossible - I doubt he was at sea when the ER entry was taken

Perhaps obtaining a copy of his death cert may at least show who reported his death.  Looking at the FindaGrave entry - his birthyear was known.
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Re: What happened to Benjamin Robert Henry Wragg
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 14:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks CaroleW. Maggsie has PM'd me with some info regarding him being in the Australian Navy during WW2.

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Re: What happened to Benjamin Robert Henry Wragg
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 15:41 BST (UK) »
Not sure? QLD Marriage: 12/11/1930
Benjamin Robert Henry Wragge and Mary Martha known as Maria Martha Lenz known as Lencz
Registration details: 1930/B/9606

Qld Birth: 13/12/1904 Mary Martha Lenz
Mother's name: Johanna Antonia Gadischki
Father’s name: Carl Friedrich Wilhelm Lenz
Registration details: 1905/C/8186


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Re: What happened to Benjamin Robert Henry Wragg
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 15:51 BST (UK) »
Courier Mail 27th Oct 1953 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/51094090
WRAGG. Mr. Benjamin, Belmont Road, Belmont, 1st A.I.F., late Q.A.T.B.— The Funeral of the late Benjamin Wragg, is appointed to leave the Parlour, 400 Wickham Street, To-morrow (Wednesday) at 10 a.m., for Lutwyche Cemetery.

QATB (Queensland Ambulance Transport Brigade)
On 1 July 1991, the QATB was transformed into a state-administered service to become the Queensland Ambulance Service (QAS).

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Re: What happened to Benjamin Robert Henry Wragg
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 16:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks Cup of Life. Thats great. Can only assume he was divorced from 1st wife, Laura,  or he was a naughty boy.

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Re: What happened to Benjamin Robert Henry Wragg
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 16:37 BST (UK) »
The Telegraph Brisbane 23 March 1922 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/181939779
AMBULANCE BEARER'S CLAIM.
Judgement For Defendant.

… case in which Benjamin Wragg, an ambulance bearer,…