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Joseph Williams 1792-1849 Gresford/Rossett
« on: Wednesday 27 September 23 14:18 BST (UK) »
Any help with the Wrexham 1841 census please?  I'm looking for Joseph Williams 1792-1849 and his wife Margaret Williams 1796-1848 who were living in Gresford/Rossett in 1841.  Would like to know names of their children please?  Thanks to anyone able to assist with this.

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Re: Joseph Williams 1792-1849 Gresford/Rossett
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 14:33 BST (UK) »
Here is the link to the 1841 which is free from www.familysearch.org

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1493745

You need to be aware that ages from 16yrs onwards were rounded down to the neares 5yrs (eg) somebody who was actually 18 in 1841 would be shown as 15

Also - given their respective birthyears - any children may have "flown the nest" by 1841
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Re: Joseph Williams 1792-1849 Gresford/Rossett
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 14:48 BST (UK) »
1841 for couple not coming up - lots census missing in area.

Possible

Daniel Williams
Baptism Age   0
Birth Date   7 Mar 1836
Baptism Date   26 Jun 1836
Baptism Place   Gresford, Denbighshire, Wales
Father   Joseph Williams occ.farmer
Mother   Margaret Williams
Abode Burton

1851
Townland of Burton, Gresford, Denbighshire
Piece   2502, Folio   166, Page number   11

Joseph Williams 21 head farmer Cheshire Dodleston
Mary A Williams 24 sister "
Daniel Williams   15 brother Gresford
Robert Williams 11 brother Gresford
Joseph Williams nephew 1 Gresford

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Joseph Williams 1792-1849 Gresford/Rossett
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 15:00 BST (UK) »
This is the other bapt in area

Robert Norbury Williams
Birth Date   27 Jan 1840
Baptism Date   5 Apr 1840
Baptism Place   Gresford, Denbighshire, Wales
Father   Joseph Williams Occ. farmer
Mother   Margaret Norbury     Transcript states Williams image is Norbury
Abode Burton

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland


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Re: Joseph Williams 1792-1849 Gresford/Rossett
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 15:15 BST (UK) »
Also this marriage in area not sure if it connects? One for the file.  No marriage to Norbury in area.

Joseph Williams - bach, signed
Marriage Date   8 Apr 1833
Marriage Place   Gresford, Denbighshire, Wales
Residence Place   Gresford - both of parish
Spouse   Margaret Bowen - spinster, made her mark
Witness: John Willington - Mary Roberts

Page number   106

Disregard wrong couple

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Joseph Williams 1792-1849 Gresford/Rossett
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 15:16 BST (UK) »
As Cas has said, a large portion of the wider Wrexham area is missing.

This link give a listing. You'll need to scroll through the various areas. Not all are listed as some of the areas are only missing in part. 

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/census-for-england-wales-and-scotland-missing-pieces

Those of us with ancestors in this area have had to use other records to try to build a picture. 

A set of transcripts for  the Wrexham town area was published by Clwyd FHS. This gives  brief listing but not very much detail. I have a copy oif this but as you want Gresford/Rossett, it wouldn't help.


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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Joseph Williams 1792-1849 Gresford/Rossett
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 15:37 BST (UK) »
More likely marriage as eldest born Cheshire

Joseph Williams
Marriage Date   20 May 1822
Marriage Place   St. Mary's-on-the-Hill, Chester, Cheshire, England
Spouse    Margret Norbury
FHL Film Number   1655536

Joseph Williams
Marriage Date   20 May 1822
Marriage Place   St Mary, Chester, Cheshire, England
Spouse   Margaret Norbury
FHL Film Number   2045842
Reference ID   item 6 p 200

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Joseph Williams 1792-1849 Gresford/Rossett
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 15:38 BST (UK) »
marriage St Mary Chester 20 May 1822 of Joseph Williams, farmer, & Margaret Norbury, witnesses Mary Norbury & Richard Groom

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DZK9-9B?i=712&cc=1614792

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb