Frances Allan b1866. Normanby

[Tineke]

While looking at my families 1891 census for Shirebrook  Derbyshire I found My g grandfather William Henry Burke age 23. Wife Ellen Maria.  Son Hugh  John William ( my grandfather ) & George my g uncle  Then Frances Allan age 25 from Normanby.  Dressmaker. Cousin

Back to 1881 I found her on the census for Pleasley which is near Shirebrook  with James Ward age 68  son John 33 Daughter Harriet 36.   Then Frances Allen age 15 Niece Normanby Scholar .

I would like to know anything about Frances & where she fits into the family.  Hope someone can help
Many thanks Tineke

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In 1871 There is a Frances A Allan age 6 in Eston, Yorkshire as niece of William and Margaret Hutchinson

[Tineke]

Thank you   I tried but can’t have done it correctly , in my 80 s now .

[rosie99]

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/guisborough.html

Birth June qtr 1865   
Allan,    Frances Ann   - Mothers maiden surname Limer    
Guisbro'. Registration district 9d   461

[rosie99]

Marriage Mar qtr 1859 
James Allan          
Eliza Limer   
Guisbro' RD    9d   663

ADDED
17th February 1859 at Ormesby, Yorkshire
James Allan age 29 -Widower - Father John Allan occ Inn Keeper
Eliza Limer age 23- father Herbert Limer occ Gentlemans Servant
Witnesses
Oliver Buek... ?
Thomas Hardy

[Tineke]

Thank you so much for the information . I must try to get the connection with my family . It’s says cousin on the census l it could be cousin on my grandfathers fathers Burke family or his  mothers Charlesworth family , will start looking .

[Mabel Bagshawe]

This looks like James and Eliza in 1871 in Normanby. Children all b Normanby, mmn Limer

James Allan    41    Head b Lofthouse. Joiner
Eliza Allan   31    Wife b Cresswell, Notts
Ellen J Allan         11    
Elizabeth Allan   9    
Margaret Allan   7    
Alice Allan           4    
Florence Allan    2    

Gap in just the right place for Frances. They also had a son in 1867

[Tineke]

Thanks.  This looks very possible. Cresswell where Eliza was born is in the area . I wonder why Frances is not with the family .I looked back to the census before & Frances is with James Ward who was born at Warsop gives Frances as niece she is 15 & a scholar
Still trying to find a connection with my g grandparents , surnames Burke & Charlesworth as they give Frances as cousin .
James Ward gives her as niece , maybe through his wife but seems she must have died as not on the census .