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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 26 October 23 06:11 BST (UK) »
Still no answers from the V&A. Here is an enlarged view of the gentleman in question.

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 26 October 23 09:13 BST (UK) »
Just a thought but looks like Elgar to me.... totally wrong but....

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 26 October 23 10:48 BST (UK) »
No, the nose is wrong!

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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 26 October 23 10:50 BST (UK) »
I agree with Japeflakes....well spotted. The facial hair is the same and the wrinkles between his eyebrows are the same.
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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 26 October 23 10:56 BST (UK) »
I'm pretty sure it's not Elgar.
Look at the photos here
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/photos/edward-elgar
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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 26 October 23 13:48 BST (UK) »
Elgar did have a rather distinctive nose, when seen from the right angle, but this one seems smaller and possibly a bit turned up. Also, in his later years Elgar appears to have been rather, shall we say... portly.

There's also the question of dating. The original estimate for this photo was around 1900, give or take a bit, but as Elgar was born in 1857, this would be far too old for him. I'd suggest our sitter would probably have been born no later than about 1840.
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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 26 October 23 15:12 BST (UK) »
The National Portrait Gallery have a few thousand portraits by Lafayette, they aren't all available as images though.
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person?sort=dateDesc&LinkID=mp08092&displayNo=60&wPage=0

Incidentally if sorted by 'gallery recommended' then you can safely ignore the first 400 as I've been through those.

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 26 October 23 22:54 BST (UK) »
Hi japeflakes

Look at the ear. (see link below) Elgar had an unusual slight low angled flat bottom edge about the narrow long thin lob similar to (though harder to see behind his hair) ear of your gentleman in the image you posted.

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/english-composer-sir-edward-william-elgar-news-photo/646264948?adppopup=true


Notice his left eye brow (Your Right looking at image) the corner to the nose bridge is a sharp corner in link of Elgar and your gentleman's image
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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #17 on: Friday 27 October 23 03:44 BST (UK) »
I've flipped the image of the unknown gentleman to better line them up but I think it's pretty clear when they're side by side that most of their respective features don't match.
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