Charles Winter

[anneelaine]

Charles Winter
1829–1882
BIRTH 1829 • Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
DEATH 18 NOV 1882 • Burnley, Lancashire, England
wife    
Ann (Mary) Jane Anderson
Ann (Mary) Jane
Anderson
abt 1837
Date:
Place:
Canada
Date:
 Death 21 NOV 1884 • Burnley, Lancashire, England
It is saying on Ancestry it's Charles Winter
1794–1857
BIRTH 1794 • Walton Le Dale, Lancashire, England

DEATH 1857 • Preston, Lancashire, England

3rd great-grandfather  I have a feeling its not right
Could anyone help please .thanks AE

[Dundee]

It is not very clear, but perhaps you mean that others with family trees think that Charles born 1794 is the father of Charles born 1829, but you don't agree.  Is that right?

I can see the 1829 baptism to Charles and Margaret although it was in Lancashire, not Birmingham where your Charles says he was born.  If that child is the shop boy living in Friargate in 1841 then he most likely died in 1844 and was buried at Preston.

I can't see anyone named Charles WINTER baptised in Birmingham around that time.

Debra 

[Dundee]

There is a baptism a little earlier in 1826 to Robert and Elizabeth in Birmingham, and by 1841 that family has moved to Gloucestershire.

Debra 

[Kay99]

1n 1871 and 1881 Charles is listed as a solder/Sargeant and FindMyPast has a record of a Charles Winter b 1830 Borsley (Bordesley?) Birmingham. 

The service record lists him as a Color Sargeant  includes service including Canada which is listed as Charles's wife Ann's birthplace in the census and his daughter Elizabeth was born in Corfu which also ties in with a posting in the army record.  It also lists his enlistment in 1847 in Bristol Glos which might tie in with the Charles that Dundee found

Kay

[Kay99]

This looks like the family Dundee found in 1851 after Robert Winter has died and his wife Elizabeth remarried

John Purnell 52    Head Shoemaker
Elizabeth Purnell 45    Wife b Birmingham
Frances Purnell 17    Daughter
Thomas Purnell 13    Son
Joseph Purnell 10    Son
Frederick Purnell 4    Son
Joseph Winter  17    Son-in-law b Bristol
Samuel Winter 14    Son-in-law b Bristol
Martha Winter    11    Daughter-in-law b Bristol

Kay

[Dundee]

The family is here in 1841.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7M4-RHF

Only children Ann and Charles were baptised in Birmingham before they moved.  For Ann they were at Fazeley Street, and Charles was Bartholomew Street so they were in the right area for him to say that he was born at Bordesley.

Debra 

[anneelaine]

Oh, thank you so much for that ,it helped a lot..
 Bristol Glos I can now think  back  from years ago
my Cousin said something about  Bristol way
 I had forgotten all about it.
I took a wee  look on his tree but it stop 1829 same as mine 
brick wall ,
and now I can see what I can find.
       Thanks again.
AE .

[anneelaine]

Hi Kay 99

John Purnell 52    Head Shoemaker
Elizabeth Purnell 45    Wife b Birmingham
Frances Purnell 17    Daughter
Thomas Purnell 13    Son
Joseph Purnell 10    Son
Frederick Purnell 4    Son
Joseph Winter  17    Son-in-law b Bristol
Samuel Winter 14    Son-in-law b Bristol
Martha Winter    11    Daughter-in-law b Bristol
I am still not sure if this is right only because the dates  Frances P Is 17 go back to she 1841  she was married to RW?  also she  EW  was 42 years old   :-\in 1851 ?Mmmmm HELP please

[Kay99]

I think this is the Purnell family in 1841 living at Merchant Street, St James, Bristol  before John Purnell married Elizaabeth Winter in 1846.  John's daughter is Frances was 7?   

John   Purnell   40   Shoe M(aker) Somerset, England
Mary Ann   Purnell   35   Somerset, England
John   Purnell 15   Somerset, England
Samuel   Purnell 13    Somerset, England
Frances   Purnell   7   Somerset, England
Thomas   Purnell   3 Somerset, England
Joseph   Purnell Somerset, England

I don't see a Frances P that was married to Robert Winter in 1841??

The transcription of the marriage of John Purnell to Elizabeth Winter is on FindMyPast and

Marriage    29 Jun 1846 St James Bristol
Elizabeth Winter age 38 widow father John Hill
John Purnell age 47 widower

I agree that the age of Elizabeth Winter/Hill/Purnell varies but she may have knocked a few years of her age when she remarried.  By 1861 she is listed as 59

Kay

Added - Possible death of Robert Winter

WINTER, ROBERT        46 
GRO Ref 1841  S Qtr  BRISTOL  Volume 11  Page 96
Burial 12 Jul 1841 Bristol - Address    St Peters Hospital

Info ties in the one of your earlier threads on the family https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=746540