Parents for Martha Chapman 1780s

[FrancisGrn]

Hi Rootschat community,
 I'm looking for someone to take a look to see if they can help me find parents for my brick wall ancestor Martha Chapman. Martha was born 1780-1790 and married Thomas Trinder (1787-1852) in St James Piccadilly in 1809. They had George Richard Trinder (1812-1861), Thomas Trinder (1814-1851), John Thomas Trinder (1823-1883) and Charles Trinder (1825-1859). For a long time I assumed that the Lambeth 1823 death record was hers, but her last son was born in 1825, so I'm rather confused.

Thanks a lot,

FG

[CaroleW]

Where was Thomas born & where was he living in 1841/51

[FrancisGrn]

Holborn; He can be found in lambeth in '41 and '51

[amondg]

She is 26 when she had George 1812 - records lying in Hospital Holborn

She is 28 when she had Thomas 1814

Haven't found John Thomas as yet

She was 39 when she had Charles 1825

Husband Thomas was a brushmaker.

[CaroleW]

The Thomas Trinder who died Lambeth 1852 is shown as 60 giving a birthyear of around 1791/92.  The 1851 shows him as 50 b London occ hat finisher & he is living with his son John b 1823 (?? John Thomas)  & his wife.

1841 - Thomas aged 7 could be a grandson

Thomas Trinder 45 general B Maker (presumably brush maker)
John Trinder 17 same occ as father (Probably John Thomas)
Thomas Trinder 7
Frances Watson 35
William Watson 12
Thomas Watson  8
Piece 1058/3 Folio 12 Page 19

[FrancisGrn]

Yes, that's them.  I asked about Thomas a year or so ago rootschat. Here's a link:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=849100.0
After Martha died, he cohabited with Frances Watson and had 3 children with her.
FG

[Neale1961]

On her marriage Martha signs her name with a confident hand
Can you make out the names of the witnesses?
Susanna Riley?   and     Mary Ann? Harman?


Have you looked at this baptism?   …..
Martha – Daughter of Richard and Hannah Chapman
Born 2 June 1786, baptised 9 July 1786
St Benet Paul's Wharf, City of London

[FrancisGrn]

Susanna Ridley/Riley and Mary Ann Hannam. The latter is Thomas Trinder's sister. That baptism is possible, but we still don't have a 'missing link'. Have you found some kind of death record?