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John Watson Lake
« on: Saturday 07 October 23 10:32 BST (UK) »
I've got this lad, John Watson Lake, who's a bit of a mystery. In 1932 he's living in Back Road, Finglas (not sure where that is), gets married to Catherine Kelly, listing his father as Robert, a civil servant, and rapidly dies, to be survived by a widow and three-year-old child.

Marriage: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1932/08995/5255416.pdf

Death: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1932/04876/4319156.pdf

Lake is an unusual name in Ireland, and Watson Lake more or less unknown, so this is almost certainly our lad in the 1911 census:

http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mansion_House/York_Street__Part_of_/76856/

and I'm wondering if this is him and a twin in the 1901 census, working on a farm and listed as "orphant": http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wicklow/Newcastle_Upper/Newtownmountkennedy_Town/1816036/

and also in 1901 if this is his mother: http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Wood_Quay/Guinness_Trust_Buildings/1346889/

His widow made an unsuccessful application for a military pension in 1932 and then disappears. He is mentioned in one of the Irish Volunteers - just one line in a Bureau of Military History witness statement.

I have various remotely possible lines - there's a Robert Lake who married a Mary Dunne in 1885, both of them living in 18 Shamrock Street (near the Blessington Basin); a Robert Lake dies in 1893 at 36 Richmond Road (near where DCU is now) - but I don't know if these are any good… John Watson Lake's mother describes herself (or perhaps the enumerator, Constable James Neill 115B so describes her) on the 1911 census as "Widow", with quotes…


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Re: John Watson Lake
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 October 23 11:02 BST (UK) »
Jim, assume that is James has a memorial in the Evening Herald in 1944 for his mother Mary Watson Lake died 19 May 1930
so this will be her death cert as Mary Lake son Edward the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1930/04918/4335067.pdf

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Re: John Watson Lake
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 October 23 11:21 BST (UK) »
Have a look at this birth of an Edward Watson 1885
Does it say Lake under the name Watson on the father? Number 68
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02637/1972755.pdf

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Re: John Watson Lake
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07 October 23 11:22 BST (UK) »
Jim, assume that is James has a memorial in the Evening Herald in 1944 for his mother Mary Watson Lake died 19 May 1930
so this will be her death cert as Mary Lake son Edward the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1930/04918/4335067.pdf

Was going to post the same. In addition there are 1932 and 1948 memorials eg


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Re: John Watson Lake
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 07 October 23 11:25 BST (UK) »
The 1885 birth reg fits the PoB on the 1911 Census - Wexford

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Re: John Watson Lake
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 07 October 23 11:38 BST (UK) »
These are all brilliant - is this the Wexford 1911 census you're talking about, hanes telulu? Arthur W Lake? On a boat of some sort?

http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wexford/Kilmore/Kilmore_Quay/692617/

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Re: John Watson Lake
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 07 October 23 11:43 BST (UK) »
This is what I have of him so far…

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Re: John Watson Lake
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 07 October 23 12:02 BST (UK) »
@Sinann, what's the place in Tipperary where the John Watson birth registration is? Looks like "Mordishel"?
It could be him, ok, as the 1911 census has his birthplace as Tipperary.