Frances Bland/Robert Watson Chester le Street 1851.

[stevej60]

Hi folk's these were my Gtx2 Grandparents,both in the 1851 census at  a different address to each other he is recorded as a druggist's assistant I think she's with her father John a newsagent.Just
noticed their marraige is recorded in St John's church Newcastle 3/10/1850 she is recorded as
widowed? Very odd wondered if anyone has a theory.

[CaroleW]

If she married as Bland & is shown as a widow - what was her maiden name?

Have you looked for a marriage to Mr Bland & a death for Mr Bland?

Have you seen the actual marriage cert?

Are you sure you have the right 1851 entry?  That Frances is shown as Bland & is unmarried??

[Mabel Bagshawe]

All the children with Robert and "Francis" on 1861 have mmn Bland, and the eldest son has Bland as his middle name which suggests it is her maiden name.  maybe the widow on the marriage register was incorrect?

[stevej60]

Hi Carole yes we have the cert.Rang my brother and she,s shown as spinster so miss reported entry I assume.

[stevej60]

Thanks Mabel looks like the entry was wrong still strange why a year later the cencus has them seemingly not married.

[arthurk]

Who were the witnesses to the marriage? I'm wondering if Robert and Frances might have eloped to get married, and still hadn't got round to telling their parents by the time of the census. Also, what father's name did Frances give?

Calling herself a widow (if she did) might have been a way for Frances to head off any enquiries about parental consent, although at the age of 23/24 (based on 1851 census) even as a single woman she shouldn't have needed this.

[Tickettyboo]

They married by Licence and that says they were Bachelor and Spinster
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-XCRH-4WX?i=380&cc=1675690

Boo

[stevej60]

Thank's folk's and Boo many thanks for the link to the familysearch image I'm thinking they might have hid the marraige for whatever reason and Frances obviously spent time in the Parish for the purpose of the
marraige,Robert died in Benwell well into his eighties his father was the schoolmaster at Gilling west then
the William Turner Hospital near Redcar his elder brother was a fairly important businessman in Middlesbrough and was Mayor in 1865.

[trish1120]

Its interesting that on the bapt of Frances 11 Dec 1825 her Father John is a Hairdresser.
Also that occp 1841 Census.

FreeREG has the bapts of Johns children with Mary GREIVESON
(9 from 1807 to 1825)
Eg ESTHER 16 Aug 1807 3rd Daughter. Father Native of St Marys Durham by his wife Native of St Giles Durham. Father a Hairdresser.

Cant see the bapts of the 1st 2 children.

Margery 1834 was the Daug of Esther bapt 30 Jan 1834

Johns 2nd Marriage was to Margery HIND 1842