Smith/Smythe

[Rose411]

My grandfather's family(McMahons)had a bakery on Park Street in Monaghan Town. When my grandfather James Joesph McMahon left for the US in 1902, his brother Henry was running the bakery. I see my grandfather's name on the 1901 census, but of course not on the 1911 census. His father (John McMahon) was still alive when he left  but his mother Bridget Smith was not. I can't find anything else regarding the Smith line. They were Roman Catholic. In the late 1980's we tried to find their McMahon burial site, but could not. Supposedly one daughter Catherine McMahon buried them all together but we could not track that down, though we tried! My husband and I looked across at each other at yet another cemetery and I finally said, "Let's find a pub and go enjoy the living people around us." Which we did.

[gaffy]

Welcome.   

I wonder if the Henry below ...

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Monaghan/Monaghan_Rural/Park_Street/1638949/

... could be the same man in the following 1950 death registration?  Location, age, occupation and the named informant (sister) all tick the boxes:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1950/04516/4188506.pdf

The death notice for him in the Irish Independent said that requiem mass was at St. Joseph's, with the funeral immediately afterwards to Urbleshanny Cemetery (and asked American papers to copy).

[gaffy]

Earlier that same year, stating the same street name in Monaghan (Mall Road), a Teresa McMahon died at a reported age of 73:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1950/04530/4193640.pdf

The death notice in the Irish Independent said that requiem mass was at St. Joseph's, with interment immediately afterwards in Urbleshanny Scotstown (and asked American papers to copy).

[gaffy]

The 1911 census return stated that John was 47 years married:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Monaghan/Monaghan_Urban/Park_Street/811271/

Here's the marriage registration in 1864, it took place in 'Urbelshanny' Chapel, both were residing at Scotstown, Bridget's father (John? Or Owen?) was a cooper, John's father Hugh was a farmer:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1864/11611/8274339.pdf

[gaffy]

Bridget's 1887 death registration indicated birth c. 1844:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1887/06222/4780598.pdf

There was a couple called Owen Smith and Catherine Fye/Faye of Scotstown having children in the 1840s including Bridget in 1841 and Catherine in 1844, here's the baptismal record for that Bridget in the Tydavnet RC Parish registers, 24 March 1841, left page:
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632895#page/28/mode/1up

I can see a transcript of a marriage on 21 May 1837 in Kilmore RC Parish between an Owen Smyth of Tydavnet Parish and Catherine Foy of Drumsnatt Parish, which is a maybe. There are also Monaghan registered deaths for Owen and Catherine, for which the informant was a son Owen.

But since I've nothing more conclusive to tie them in as the parents of the Bridget who married John McMahon, it's really just to register their existence as a possibility, until they can be ruled in or out.

[Rose411]

WOW!  I had seen the census lists before but not all this other information. I will look and research all the links you gave me in the next coming days. It is astonishing to get all this info on one day after years of running into road blocks.  Thank you so much.

[Kiltaglassan]

Welcome to RootsChat 

…with interment immediately afterwards in Urbleshanny Scotstown..

Bough townland taking in Scotstown village.
https://www.townlands.ie/monaghan/monaghan/tedavnet/scotstown/bough/

Urbleshanny RC Church and graveyard.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5379260#map=16/54.2818/-7.0591

[Rose411]

I have been adding all the information into my family tree. Even though there are few details of their lives, the details given offer a more human story beyond the dates. That my great grand mother died after 12 months of "pain in the back" at the age of just 43 suggests that it most likely was a cancer of some kind. Her son (my grandfather) died of prostate cancer at the age of 55. Too early for both. I want to tell you that Scotstown and Tydavnet were the two towns we journeyed through often when searching for cemeteries in '88 and '89 and the final last time in 1995. That Urbleshanny grave yard was the last one we went to search! It was a beautiful country side to travel through and I can still conjure up some roads we traveled on. I just now researched the find a grave at Urbleshanny but none of name combos came up. By the way, I can't find any info that John was married for 47 years. Maybe I am not looking in the right place!  I will be working on this for the next few days. Again, thank you so much. Additional note...Isn't it funny that John is listed as a baker and bachelor and Bridget is listed as a spinster and a spinster. Her "work" was being a spinster. (!)