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John Stock of Bristol
« on: Sunday 15 October 23 14:55 BST (UK) »
John Stock was a paper-maker in Bristol from around 1744 until around 1771 and although I have details of his marriage and a fair bit of information on his sons John Edmonds Stock and Thomas Stock, I am having a great deal of trouble tracing his family backwards. So far I have discovered, via Gwent Archives' online catalogue, that he was the son of Mary, sister of Henry Edmonds, gent, of Cwmcarvan, Monmouthshire, and that his father may possibly be one Thomas Stock of Coleford, Gloucester, surgeon, but I cannot find either a marriage to confirm this, or any other information about the family at all! There is also a possibility that John may be related in some way to the Robert Stock who married in Bristol in 1729. All help gratefully received. 

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Re: John Stock of Bristol
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 15 October 23 16:25 BST (UK) »
Does not help your quest but there is this death. No age given, index only

1772 Oct 16    EDMONDS    Henry - Burial Cwmcarvan   
Cwmcarvan Burials 1728-1774
Welsh - Cwmcarfan   Dedication - St Clement

Memoranda (in the source)   Mr Henry Edmonds

Gwent record office register ref. number   LDS/PA 85

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Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: John Stock of Bristol
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 15 October 23 16:33 BST (UK) »
At this stage, Cas, any snippet of information is useful - I found a precis of Henry's Will in Gwent Archives, but had no death date for him, so thank you for that.

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Re: John Stock of Bristol
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 15 October 23 20:30 BST (UK) »
There is an administration for Thomas Stock, late of Coleford, Surgeon who died intestate, granted to Mary Stock, his widow. It's dated 1735 and you can access it via the wills on Ancestry.

Possible baptism
Newland 21 April 1719 John, son of Thomas & Mary Stock of Coleford
also Elizabeth bp 23 Nov 1721
burial
Newland 8 Feb 1735 Thomas Stock of Coleford
Transcribed from Latin entries on the Forest of Dean site
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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: John Stock of Bristol
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 October 23 20:32 BST (UK) »
Currently researching Robert Stock sugar refiner of Bristol. It was he who married at St Augustine's 15 May 1729. He was buried 25 June 1756; his wife Hannah (nee Noble) buried 31 August 1763 - both at Broadmead Baptist.
A Bristol Archives unpublished essay regarding his sugarhouse suggests he was the son of William Stock brazier, but I have nothing more on that yet.
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Re: John Stock of Bristol
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 October 23 20:55 BST (UK) »
Just adding in case of relevance with info given by Osprey. No age given, index only

1755  Nov 7    STOCK    Mary  - Burial Cwmcarvan St Clement
Cwmcarvan Burials 1728-1774

Gwent record office
register ref. number   LDS/PA 85

To note: Edmonds families living Cwmcarvan 1700s - addresses include Bayly Glasse/Bayly Glace & Treely - if you come across in your research of area.

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Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
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Re: John Stock of Bristol
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 15 October 23 22:26 BST (UK) »
Another Cwmcarvan burial
28 Dec 1772 John Edmonds

Baptism?
Cwmcarvan 20 July 1702
John, the son of John Edmunds of Bailey Glas & Alice his wife

Marriage Cwmcarvan 19 June 1699 John Edmunds of Bayley Glace & Alice Paske
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: John Stock of Bristol
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 October 23 09:39 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for your contributions, everyone. You've finally given me something solid to go on, as I've been going round in circles until now. Osprey, I don't have a sub to Ancestry to view Thomas's admon, unfortunately, but now that I know what I'm looking for, I might be able to unearth details elsewhere. John's baptism comes just a few months before a bond dated 16 December 1719, made between John Edmonds, junior and senior, and Thomas Stock of Coleford, so Thomas's marriage to Mary Edmonds must have taken place a year or two prior. The bond also mentions Thomas's father Stephen, which is helpful, though no occupation is mentioned in his case.

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 October 23 17:07 BST (UK) »
Thomas's father "Stephen Stock of Colford (sic), chirurgeon," was a Protestant as he was one of those men who took the Oaths and Allegiances to King George in Gloucester, in January 1715. This may explain the difficulties in finding records for this family. Stephen also seems to have been involved in an adultery case in 1718/19.