Jean Watson c1780 & David Hislop 1788 - 1868 West Linton Peebleshire

[patval]

I am trying to reach anyone with information regarding  Jean/Jane Watson c 1780 possibly Kelso she married David Hislop 1788 – 1868 West Linton Peebles they were contracted to marry in West Linton 4th July 1813. My husband is descended from their son John Lauder Hislop  AKA  John Lauder 1814 - 1887. Would like to discover parents for Jean/Jane please.

Thank you
Patricia

[ColC]

I note the marriage and birth/baptism you mention on https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
How do you know that Jean was born about 1780, maybe Kelso, have you found her death record or census?

It seems that John was their only child, unless they moved away from Peebleshire?

Do you know when and where David was born?

DAVID HISLOP   MARRIED   JEAN WATSON   04/07/1813   WEST LINTON

HISLOP JOHN LAUDER DAVID HISLOP/JEAN WATSON    20/04/1814 WEST LINTON

Colin

[Forfarian]

The 1841 census suggests that Jean must have died before then. The 1851 census says that David is a widower. There's no obvious death on SP, so you'd need to check the Kirk Session records and see if there is a gravestone.

SP has 5 baptisms of children to David H and Jean Watson. IF they followed the naming tradition you'd expect Jean's parents' names to be James and Marion. There might be clues to Janet's parentage if the baptism records include names of witnesses.

There's another child, Helen, in the census with David. Aged 16 in 1841 and 29 in 1861.

[Forfarian]

Looks as if at least some of the family died in Galashiels?

[patval]

Hello ColC . thanks for the response. On the 1861 census David is recorded as being born Whirn (?) in 1791 living in Ladhope However his death cert says he was aged 80 at death making DOB 1788 father recorded as James Hislop no mother.. son John L Hislop present. Wife recorded as Jane Watson, she has also been recorded as Jean. I can only find a Jean Watson born to Alexander Watson and Jane lauder but not convinced this is the right person, I thought perhaps someone else may have a different idea on this couple.

Patricia

[patval]

 Hello Forfarian, I have found these children to David and Jean, John Lauder Hislop. James. Marion Alexander and William (twins) and a Helen. the others you named are new to me so I will be looking at those now to see if I can find a clue,  I did look at Kirk Sessions but unless someone was accused of fornication they did not get mentioned .. Thank you.

[Forfarian]

I wonder if Whirn is a mistranscription of Whim? This is a place in the parish of Newlands.

See https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=15.6&lat=55.76925&lon=-3.25163&layers=257&b=1&marker=55.76844,-3.25275 and
https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NT2153

[patval]

I was hoping to find parents for Jean Watson. David and Jean named their first child John LAUDER Hislop and John had a preference for the surname Lauder... so I have been searching for a Watson/Lauder connection, I have located a marriage contract between an Alexander Watson and a Jean Lauder on 11th November 1767 with the marriage recorded in Cockpen on the 15th November.  Alexander from Kelso and Jean from Cockpen. Amongst their children was a daughter named Jean 1777 -   However, I have doubts about Alexander and Jean as trees on Ancestry connect this Jean to Sir Robert Lauder and as tempting as it may be I can't commit to this line without more evidence of which I am struggling to find.
Am I missing another marriage between a Watson and a Lauder?

Patricia

[Forfarian]

Do not ever trust anything you find on Ancestry unless it's an image of an original document.

When you say 'marriage contract' what exactly have you found?

Have you looked at the original marriage records at Scotland's People? What more information (if any) do they contain?

Have you noticed  the baptism of John, son of William Hislop and Agnes Lauder, in Hawick in 1719? Might it be relevant?