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Re: Sweet Stall pontypridd Market
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 18 October 23 00:55 BST (UK) »
franks sister Mary Ann Gaze married a Samuel Pearson, so it may be a brother in law

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Re: Sweet Stall pontypridd Market
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 18 October 23 00:59 BST (UK) »
Aargh, I'm so sorry, I should have looked at the next page of the 1891 census before I started posting. I see the family of Thomas and Ellen GAZE now in 1891 with the children mentioned above, as well as Frank (born Prussia), James and Dorothy (both born Pontypridd).

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Re: Sweet Stall pontypridd Market
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 18 October 23 01:01 BST (UK) »
No don’t worry about it, it’s a confusing family.

I have been told they were German Jews who emigrated before ww1.

But that could be a lie for all I know

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Re: Sweet Stall pontypridd Market
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 18 October 23 01:10 BST (UK) »
It doesn't seem like it. Thomas GAZE's family seem to be from Staffordhsire/Worcestershire, Ellen (nee WILLIAMS) family from Worcestershire area. Can't see why they would have travelled to Germany c1883 in time for Frank's birth, though they obviously did!. They were certainly all in UK long before WWI.  :-\


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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 18 October 23 01:12 BST (UK) »
Yeah I know it’s strange, my great grandfather was able to speak German because he learnt from family members. And the fact that they were German Jews has been passed on through the family apparently.

Gaze and shuker is a Jewish name apparently. They changed their name from shuker to gaze

Apparently they came to the Uk in the 1860s - 1870s

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 18 October 23 01:23 BST (UK) »
According to a tree on Ancestry (not necessarily correct) a James GAZE (born 1793 in Dudley) married Mary SHUKER (born 1796 in Halesowen) in 1818 in Dudley. Thomas GAZE (born c1836 Cradley) is their son. (father of Charles, Frank etc)

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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 18 October 23 01:25 BST (UK) »
Yeah that’s the information that I have, I’m going by word of mouth from my grandfather. This is what he has been told or remembers.

I can’t ask him much because he likes to blank questions especially when it comes to his dads service in the army

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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 18 October 23 09:01 BST (UK) »
Good morning
Have you tested your DNA ? Sone of your more distant matches could confirm a German connection… of course getting your grandfather to test would be even better as he’d be a stronger match.   I think A**y have a sale on at the moment.
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Re: Sweet Stall pontypridd Market
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 18 October 23 12:08 BST (UK) »
Yeha I have done a DNA test and it’s come back with 94% welsh and 6%English north Western European which includes German