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Re: Surname used as a middle name
« Reply #18 on: Friday 20 October 23 08:36 BST (UK) »
I have one surname as a middle name in my tree which has been repeated through 5 generations, originally being that of a lady born in 1768.
I also have a 2 x great grandfather, baptised without a middle name, but acquired his mother's maiden name as a middle name by the time he married. He described his Ag lab father as a Farmer on his marriage record, and himself as a butler. But I know he worked in a modest household which only had two or three servants. His next job was as a waiter in a hotel, so I think he may have been "bigging up" his status, maybe giving himself a middle name was part of that.
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Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Surname used as a middle name
« Reply #19 on: Friday 20 October 23 08:56 BST (UK) »
I have  numerous surnames as middle names in my family. Some are named after employers, others after friends.

 One particular couple gave all their children middle names which were the surnames of the people their own siblings married.

One of my sons has my own maiden name as a middle name, because he  was born six days after my father died, my father was the last male in our line to bear that name.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Surname used as a middle name
« Reply #20 on: Friday 20 October 23 09:46 BST (UK) »
Lots of examples in my tree for a variety of reasons already stated. The surname of the father of an illegitimate child is a fairly common reason. The surname of a man of some status who married into my father's line was another that was passed down as a middle name for male children over many generations as far as my grandfather. Unfortunately because he was orphaned at a young age and knew nothing of his family or indeed the middle name that he had been christened with, it stopped there. Had I known at the time my children were born I would have carried it on, but too late now.

Others include the maiden surname of the mother given as a middle name to all her children, some of whom in subsequent generations dropped their father's surname and their mothers' maiden name became their family surname from that point on.

And a child who was give as fore and middle names the fore and surname of a man who married his aunt a couple of weeks after he was born, presumably in honour of their impending marriage.
Stokes - London and Essex
Hodges - Somerset
Murden - Notts
Humphries/Humphreys from Montgomeryshire

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Re: Surname used as a middle name
« Reply #21 on: Friday 20 October 23 09:49 BST (UK) »
Then we have surnames used as forenames ;)

In my paternal tree, the Garrad and Baker families were closely interlinked.
So I have a Baker Garrad and a Garrad Baker :D
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)


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Re: Surname used as a middle name
« Reply #22 on: Friday 20 October 23 10:52 BST (UK) »
I have  numerous surnames as middle names in my family. Some are named after employers, others after friends.

 One particular couple gave all their children middle names which were the surnames of the people their own siblings married.

One of my sons has my own maiden name as a middle name, because he  was born six days after my father died, my father was the last male in our line to bear that name.

The idea of an employer as a middle name made me chuckle.

I wonder if any current births have middle names such as Amazon, Vodaphone or Royal Mail?  ;D

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Re: Surname used as a middle name
« Reply #23 on: Friday 20 October 23 10:59 BST (UK) »
I have a Relative -  Luke Oil Crawford
The Registrar didn't believe the Mother and asked her to Sign that's what she wanted as the Informant
She made her X on the Certificate as her Mark
Her Husband probably wasn't pleased with Luke Oil
He wanted the same Names as his which included his Mother's Maiden Name = Hoyle
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Re: Surname used as a middle name
« Reply #24 on: Friday 20 October 23 11:56 BST (UK) »
My 2xGtGm was Emma Toplis who marries a John Wilkins. So son is named Toplis Wilkins.
Paternal:
Jones (Shropshire & Flintshire Wales)
Wilding (Shropshire)
Davies (Shropshire)
Thomas (Denbighshire Wales)
Williams (Shropshire)
Roberts (Denbighshire Wales)
Oare (Shropshire)
Everall (Shropshire)

Maternal:
Black (Leicestershire)
Wilkins (Leicestershire)
Randall/Randle (Warwickshire & Leicestershire)
Dyer (Warwickshire & Leicestershire)
Whitaker (Leicestershire)
Toplis (Derbyshire & Leicestershire)
Pike (Leicestershire)
Sheldon (Leicestershire)

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Re: Surname used as a middle name
« Reply #25 on: Friday 20 October 23 12:23 BST (UK) »
I have an ancestors brother Newman Jacques in Suffolk, his mother was a Newman.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Surname used as a middle name
« Reply #26 on: Friday 20 October 23 19:44 BST (UK) »
Also, before middle names were fashionable, a surname as a middle name in a baptism of a base child might indicate who the father was.

This happened with one of my ancestors,I found it was the neighbours surname from one of the censuses but they had three sons all living at home
Somerset - Beard, Masters, White, Percival
Lincolnshire - Turner, Wilson
Yorkshire - Turner
Staffordshire - Beech, Gee, Mellor