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letter from James Stephen at Downing Street in 1834
« on: Friday 20 October 23 01:53 BST (UK) »
I have a copy of a letter from James Stephen at Downing Street in 1834 regarding the VINCE family who were emigrating on the ship Sarah.

No reference is provided.

I have tried TNA using "James Stephen" "Downing Street" 1834, but only got a few letters regarding convicts.

This family were free settlers.

Does anyone know what series or category it would be in TNA?

Thanks :)

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Re: letter from James Stephen at Downing Street in 1834
« Reply #1 on: Friday 20 October 23 02:55 BST (UK) »
Those names are on a list of emigrants departing 16 Oct 1834 by the Sarah for Hobart Town
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: letter from James Stephen at Downing Street in 1834
« Reply #2 on: Friday 20 October 23 03:01 BST (UK) »
Sir James Stephen (3 January 1789 – 14 September 1859) was the British Undersecretary of State for the Colonies from 1836 to 1847.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stephen_(civil_servant)
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: letter from James Stephen at Downing Street in 1834
« Reply #3 on: Friday 20 October 23 03:10 BST (UK) »
The referred to “William M Orr” was the agent in Tasmania.
William Morgan Orr
https://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/orr-william-morgan-2525

If you are looking for the original document, I think you would start looking here.

A few examples to look through here.

https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/catalog/585542


https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/catalog/2107427
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: letter from James Stephen at Downing Street in 1834
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 October 23 07:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks to all who have responded thus far.

To be clear, I already have the complete family, both in England, and in Tasmania, as well as the passenger list for the trip.

I'm just looking for the reference for the letter.

I have now asked TAHO if they have any ideas on the matter, otherwise perhaps the State Library of Victoria can help.

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Re: letter from James Stephen at Downing Street in 1834
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 21 October 23 01:11 BST (UK) »
TAHO had it all along :)

It's in series GO3 Despatches received from the Secretary and under-Secretary of State relating to Advances to Emigrants.

There was a page number missing from the top of the letter.

The specific reference is GO3-1-1 Page 801.

Thanks to all :)

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Re: letter from James Stephen at Downing Street in 1834
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 21 October 23 02:22 BST (UK) »
could i ask what TAHO stands for,

thanks

Cass

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Re: letter from James Stephen at Downing Street in 1834
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 21 October 23 02:47 BST (UK) »
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: letter from James Stephen at Downing Street in 1834
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 October 23 03:37 BST (UK) »
thank you, i am trying to learn what all the abbreviations mean

Cass