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Re: Place of Birth
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 21 October 23 11:26 BST (UK) »
Yes I have the marriage cert. for David and Christina.
David's father is named as Edward Cunningham.
Baptism record for Owen at St.Chads 11th May 1856

ANOTHER ERROR!!!!!!!!!!
For some reason I have Daniels father as Edward Cunningham. It must have come from somewhere but I haven't a clue from where! So no consanguinity issues I hope.
1861 census gives his place of birth as Drumrang or possibly Drumrainey.
More research and care needed.
Madden, Cunningham, Webb, Upton, Kinsey, Askew

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« Reply #19 on: Saturday 21 October 23 12:22 BST (UK) »
It looks as though you may have to go through your records and see who you can link.
Perhaps look at marriages for those who you believe may be brothers to check their fathers.
Do the witness’ names help on marriage certificates?
If you can access church baptism records - Godparents’ names to check too.
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« Reply #20 on: Saturday 21 October 23 13:19 BST (UK) »
Yes I have the marriage cert. for David and Christina.
David's father is named as Edward Cunningham.
Baptism record for Owen at St.Chads 11th May 1856

ANOTHER ERROR!!!!!!!!!!
For some reason I have Daniels father as Edward Cunningham. It must have come from somewhere but I haven't a clue from where! So no consanguinity issues I hope.
1861 census gives his place of birth as Drumrang or possibly Drumrainey.
More research and care needed.

I see these census entries:
1861 2157/33/26
Daniel, Anne/ie, Eluzabeth 9 yrs, Annie 2yrs all born Drumrang/y

Places beginning ‘Drumran…’
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Drumraney, Westmeath perhaps the one.
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Re: Place of Birth
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 21 October 23 13:35 BST (UK) »
Just to close
In 1871 3120/126/30
Elizabeth (daughter if Daniel and Ann) shows b Ireland but Ann b Birmingham.

1881 with her parents and husband Reuben Clutterbuck, she is b Birmingham.

1911 Elizabeth Clutterbuck b Westmeath
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« Reply #22 on: Saturday 21 October 23 15:03 BST (UK) »
Heywood, thanks for all your hard work and for the links and suggestions. I'm now going to look at that little section of my tree with a fine tooth comb before I try and delve into the Irish records and continue my research.
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Greenvale
Madden, Cunningham, Webb, Upton, Kinsey, Askew

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« Reply #23 on: Sunday 24 December 23 08:11 GMT (UK) »
Can someone please decipher this birthplace entry in the 1871 England Census. Ancestry transcribes it as Bal Bromnor but I haven't managed to find such a place in Ireland.

But the "Ireland, Roscommon" and "Bai Bromnor" entries are on two different lines, for two different people. Why then the assumption that "Bai Bromnor" is in Ireland?
None of the other entries on that page run over from one line to the next.

If for some reason people still think it is related to Ireland, then how about the following:
If you look closely, I think you will see that it is not Bai, but Bal. That would be a version of the Anglicization of the Gaelic Baile.
With that insight, the entry would appear to be a mangling or phonetic rendition of one of the Ball... or  Bally.... townlands. Several possibilities, such as Ballyboughan?
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area