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Benjamin Williams b about 1840
« on: Friday 20 October 23 21:57 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I'm trying to trace the life of Benjamin Williams.

He was born approximately 1840 in Plymouth, Devon, according to later census records.

My first record for him is from the census in 1891.

Sometime between birth and 1891 he gets married, loses his wife whose name is not known to me and makes the journey up to Durham. I don't know the order of those events.

1891

Sub registration district   Easington
ED, Institution or Vessel   1
Neighbors   View others on page
Piece   4106
Folio   7

As you can see he was living in Durham. He was working as a masons labourer. He is listed as being widowed.

One of my relatives Elizabeth Harwood, was living with him working as his 'house keeper'. Two of her children were living with her.

He also has a man called John James Henry visiting him. John James Henry is also a mason's labourer. He was born in Ireland, so not likely to be a family member of Benjamin Williams.

1901

Piece   4685
Folio   23
Page number   7
Household schedule number   35

He's now living in a boarding house, with at least 12 other boarders. Neither Elizabeth or John James are with him. He's working as a colliery labourer.

1911

This is the last record I have for him. He's living as a lodger in the house of a Ralph Meadows Price and his family. He's a pensioner and has apparently acquired a disability, having become partially blind.

I have no idea when he died.

I'd love to know what happened to him in those years before 1891, but I've failed to locate him on any records.

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Re: Benjamin Williams b about 1840
« Reply #1 on: Friday 20 October 23 22:25 BST (UK) »
"I have no idea when he died"

Have you discounted the 1912 death in the Sunderland RD which is the same RD he was living in 1911?
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Re: Benjamin Williams b about 1840
« Reply #2 on: Friday 20 October 23 23:47 BST (UK) »
I hadn't seen that one, thank you Carol W. That does seem a good possibility given his age and the location.
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Re: Benjamin Williams b about 1840
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 21 October 23 06:57 BST (UK) »
Could he have joined the military - the source of his pension?

1871 Plymouth Devon, Benjamin Williams 32  Gunner born Abergielly Camaerthen
1881 Plymouth Devon  Benjamin Williams 42   Gunner born Gravesend Kent.

It seems like the same man based on age but not if he's telling the truth about where he was born. 


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Re: Benjamin Williams b about 1840
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 21 October 23 12:12 BST (UK) »
Hello
There is this family in 1851 at  no5 The Parade Plymouth
William Williams 22 twine spinner Bodmin Cornwall
Elizabeth wife 34 Zeal Devon
Benjamin Heward ? 10 son scholar Exeter
Sarah Heward ? 6 daughter  Plymouth
Mary Ann William 4 mths daughter Plymouth

1861 sees them in Bodmin
William Williams 32 cordwainer Bodmin
Elizabeth 44 Bow Devon
Benjamin Howard 19 son in law house painter apprentice Exeter
Laura M Howard 16 d in law boot binder Exeter
Helena Howard 9 Plymouth
Sarah Wood boarder widow 85 widow of Sergt ? Taunton Somerset

William William married Elizabeth Howard at Plymouth June 1849.
There is a birth for a Benjamin Henry Howard at Exeter June 1841.No mother's maiden name.

In 1841 they are in Exeter Brunswick place
Elizabeth Howard  female servant 25y
Benjamin2 mths  y
living with George and Grace Martin both aged 30 ag lab and family


I'll see what else I can spot

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Re: Benjamin Williams b about 1840
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 21 October 23 13:39 BST (UK) »
Well that answers one question he was born Howard and later goes by his step fathers name Williams

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Re: Benjamin Williams b about 1840
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 21 October 23 14:13 BST (UK) »
I was looking at the family yesterday that cider drinker posted...

A number of trees have that Benjamin Howard marrying Louisa Dingle 1862 Bodmin - both in Canada census likely from 1871 - his death 1920, Canada.. so ruled him out.

Benjamin Henry Howard
Age   21
Birth Date   1841
Marriage Date   25 Dec 1862
Marriage Place   Bodmin,Cornwall,England
Father   Benjamin Howard
Spouse   Louisa Jane Dingle
FHL Film Number   236546

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Re: Benjamin Williams b about 1840
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 21 October 23 17:42 BST (UK) »
Thank you everyone, this is all interesting stuff to look at.
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Re: Benjamin Williams b about 1840
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 October 23 18:23 BST (UK) »
Possible burial ties up with the death Carole mentioned
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS6T-N9LK-Q?i=207&cat=825520
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