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COMPLETED: Looking for date of birth and Parents of Ellen Roberts of Amlwch
« on: Saturday 21 October 23 15:15 BST (UK) »
Ellen (also known as Ellenor) is my gg grandmother. She married my gg grandfather William Hughes in 1851. She died in 1884 (date on gravestone). I have 1822 as an estimated dob from the census. My mother said that older family members previously told her that one or both of Ellen's parents might be from Ireland.
Thank you in advance for any help you can give.

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Re: Looking for date of birth and Parents of Ellen Roberts of Amlwch
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 21 October 23 15:47 BST (UK) »
What information did Ellens marriage give about her father
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Re: Looking for date of birth and Parents of Ellen Roberts of Amlwch
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 21 October 23 16:10 BST (UK) »
if this is Ellen(or) in 1861
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M72S-TJR

the parish marriage could be
15 Feb 1851 Ynyscynhaiarn
William Hughes full age bach shoemaker Criccieth father Robert Williams tailor
Ellen Roberts full age spinster Morfa Bychan father William Roberts miner
witnesses both named David Davies, all signed except Ellen
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Looking for date of birth and Parents of Ellen Roberts of Amlwch
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 21 October 23 16:52 BST (UK) »
1851 census in Criccieth

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGV2-LXZ

Possible for 1841, William Roberts a copper miner
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M77P-MXG

not finding baptisms for the children yet, so the family could be non-conformist.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Looking for date of birth and Parents of Ellen Roberts of Amlwch
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 21 October 23 17:20 BST (UK) »
Quote from: osprey on Saturday 21 October 23 16:10 BST (UK)
if this is Ellen(or) in 1861
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M72S-TJR

the parish marriage could be
15 Feb 1851 Ynyscynhaiarn
William Hughes full age bach shoemaker Criccieth father Robert Williams tailor
Ellen Roberts full age spinster Morfa Bychan father William Roberts miner
witnesses both named David Davies, all signed except Ellen
Yes, that is them. Thank you very much. I had not realised that the original (paid-for) document had this extra information.

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Re: Looking for date of birth and Parents of Ellen Roberts of Amlwch
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 October 23 12:15 BST (UK) »
Quote from: osprey on Saturday 21 October 23 16:52 BST (UK)
1851 census in Criccieth

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGV2-LXZ

Possible for 1841, William Roberts a copper miner
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M77P-MXG

not finding baptisms for the children yet, so the family could be non-conformist.

 :-\
Thanks for that.
I don't know about Ellen and her family, but my great-grandfather (i.e. her son) was a non-conformist, so that suggests that maybe he came from a non-conformist family. (He went to Ebenezer in Borth y Gest, but different sites disagree on the denomination.)

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Re: Looking for date of birth and Parents of Ellen Roberts of Amlwch
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 22 October 23 15:17 BST (UK) »
from this, it would appear to be Calvinistic Methodist

https://coflein.gov.uk/en/site/7121/
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Looking for date of birth and Parents of Ellen Roberts of Amlwch
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 October 23 17:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks.  I saw that, and another which said Presbyterian and another which said Independent. Or perhaps they just changed / merged over time.

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Re: Looking for date of birth and Parents of Ellen Roberts of Amlwch
« Reply #8 on: Monday 23 October 23 06:49 BST (UK) »
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This one's father was a Farmer
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