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Hastings/McIntosh
« on: Saturday 21 October 23 15:40 BST (UK) »
Hi, I'm a bit stuck and wondered if anyone was up for a challenge  :)

Posted a few years ago about my ggg grandfather Forsyth McIntosh and have managed to find more info but could do with a bit of help.

Forsyth McIntosh had an illegitimate child with Ann Beattie (Alexander, was my gg grandfather) in Aberdeen in 1840.
I have Forsyth on the census from 1841 (1841 and 1851 living in Aberdeen) onwards until his death in 1908 in Portree Isle of Skye, where he married a Susan McDonald ( married 1860)  I'm struggling to find a birth for him.  From various certificates and census his birth is anywhere from 1811 to 1821 in Aberdeen but I can't find anything.


His parents were Alexander McIntosh and Stuart Hastings (Hartings/Hasties) Alexander was born c1770 but no other info on him.  I'm interested in Stuart, she was born 1777 in Forfar and married Alexander in 1795.  I have her on 1841 and 1851 census living with son Forsyth in Aberdeen but can find no death for her. Obviously various spellings of her first name.

Any help/guidance on trying to find Forsyths birth and Stuarts death would be fantastic

Thanks

Fiona
Cutsforth - Hull
Blades/Donson - Lincolnshire
Forward - Hull/Lincolnshire/Polperro
Fryman - Grimsby
Seed - Dewsbury/Lincolnshire
McIlduff - Portadown/Glasgow
McIntosh - Aberdeen/Glasgow
Beattie - Angus/Aberdeen
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Re: Hastings/McIntosh
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 21 October 23 17:05 BST (UK) »
Forsyth was 97 when he died in 1908

When & where did his mother die as the transcription of her name on the 1841 & 1851 census is nothing like Stuart (or anything else)

The 1795 marriage shows Stuart/Hastings rather than Stuart Hastings.  Does Forsyth’s 1908 death cert confim her christian name as Stuart

Forsyth married & died as MacIntosh - not McIntosh
1841-1871 he is McIntosh
1881-1901 - surname is MacIntosh

Doesn’t help one little bit as no birth/baptism under either spelling ::)



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Re: Hastings/McIntosh
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 21 October 23 18:23 BST (UK) »
It says male for Stuart Hastings 1777 ...  (could be clerical error)


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HASTINGS
   
STUART
   
ROBERT HASTINGS/ELIZABETH LOWNIE
   
M
29/08/1777
288
30 / 147
Forfar
   
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Hastings/McIntosh
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 21 October 23 19:34 BST (UK) »
The 1841 shows his mother was b Aberdeen but the 1795 marriage was in Angus
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Re: Hastings/McIntosh
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 21 October 23 20:39 BST (UK) »
Forsyth was 97 when he died in 1908

Ages from various sources
1841 - 25, 1851 - 27, 1860 - 39 1861 - 40, 1871 - 50, 1881 - 64, 1891 - 75, 1901 - 83, 1908 - 97


When & where did his mother die as the transcription of her name on the 1841 & 1851 census is nothing like Stuart (or anything else)

Transcriptions are wrong, if you're looking at ancestry as I have viewed original on Scotlands People. Trying to find death of his mother, she was born in Angus but census is Aberdeen

The 1795 marriage shows Stuart/Hastings rather than Stuart Hastings.  Does Forsyth’s 1908 death cert confim her christian name as Stuart 
Marriage says Alexander McIntosh and Stuart Hastings daughter of Robert Hastings

On his wedding she's listed as Stewart McIntosh nee Hastings on his death Jane McIntosh nee Stewart

Forsyth married & died as MacIntosh - not McIntosh
1841-1871 he is McIntosh
1881-1901 - surname is MacIntosh

Doesn’t help one little bit as no birth/baptism under either spelling ::) I usually search all variations of McIntosh as I have various one in my tree :)

Thanks

Fiona
Cutsforth - Hull
Blades/Donson - Lincolnshire
Forward - Hull/Lincolnshire/Polperro
Fryman - Grimsby
Seed - Dewsbury/Lincolnshire
McIlduff - Portadown/Glasgow
McIntosh - Aberdeen/Glasgow
Beattie - Angus/Aberdeen
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Re: Hastings/McIntosh
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 21 October 23 20:42 BST (UK) »
It says male for Stuart Hastings 1777 ...  (could be clerical error)


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HASTINGS
   
STUART
   
ROBERT HASTINGS/ELIZABETH LOWNIE
   
M
29/08/1777
288
30 / 147
Forfar
   

I think it is, on her marriage is says Stuart Hastings daughter of Robert Hastings
Cutsforth - Hull
Blades/Donson - Lincolnshire
Forward - Hull/Lincolnshire/Polperro
Fryman - Grimsby
Seed - Dewsbury/Lincolnshire
McIlduff - Portadown/Glasgow
McIntosh - Aberdeen/Glasgow
Beattie - Angus/Aberdeen
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Re: Hastings/McIntosh
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 21 October 23 21:50 BST (UK) »
?? Mothers death 1865 - no mmn shown & birthyear 10yrs out??

STEWART MCINTOSH  78   F 1865   168 / 1 / 84  St Nicholas

However - there is a male Stewart McIntosh b 1791 Nairn on the 1861 census living in the St Nicholas RD
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Re: Hastings/McIntosh
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 October 23 15:08 BST (UK) »
?? Mothers death 1865 - no mmn shown & birthyear 10yrs out??

STEWART MCINTOSH  78   F 1865   168 / 1 / 84  St Nicholas

However - there is a male Stewart McIntosh b 1791 Nairn on the 1861 census living in the St Nicholas RD

Thank you Carole

I've just had a look at the death record and it says Stewart Stuart widow of John Stuart daughter of unknown McIntosh.  I'm going to look in to this further as its possible she remarried after her first husband Alexander McIntosh died.  I havent been able to find a birth or death for Alexander as I don't know who his parents were or his date/place of birth

Fiona

Cutsforth - Hull
Blades/Donson - Lincolnshire
Forward - Hull/Lincolnshire/Polperro
Fryman - Grimsby
Seed - Dewsbury/Lincolnshire
McIlduff - Portadown/Glasgow
McIntosh - Aberdeen/Glasgow
Beattie - Angus/Aberdeen
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Re: Hastings/McIntosh
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 22 October 23 15:54 BST (UK) »
I've had a quick look into this record and I don't think its the Stuart McIntosh I'm after  :-\  ???


Marriage record on Scotlands People, says :
13th Feb 1808 at Nairn John Stewart and Stewart MacKintosh we matrimonially contracted and were married.

Could anyone tell me what 'Matrimonially contracted' means ?

Stewart had 3 children between 1808 and 1811 with Alexander McIntosh and was in Angus
Cutsforth - Hull
Blades/Donson - Lincolnshire
Forward - Hull/Lincolnshire/Polperro
Fryman - Grimsby
Seed - Dewsbury/Lincolnshire
McIlduff - Portadown/Glasgow
McIntosh - Aberdeen/Glasgow
Beattie - Angus/Aberdeen
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