Tracing vanished ancestor

[mulberry-rose]

Hmm. It’s strange. I think it was never registered. So maybe when she turned 16 there was something that required a birth certificate and she didn’t have one (like employment or moving out)

Given that it is registered so late I can only get a physical copy of the certificate. 

[jonw65]

I think I might’ve just found him.
1939, Patrick Green born 15 Apr 1876, 158 A. Plumstead High St. (Woolwich Institution) London, Farmworker.

How’d he get there? 

It's a pity you didn't find this six months ago. You could have looked at the creed register on FamilySearch to see if any more info. These records are no longer available
Woolwich Institution, register of inmates, creed register (alphabetical), May 1935-September 1940, (Ref) WOBG/063/03

Admission and discharge registers up to February 1939.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1411240

[sancti]

Possible death

Patrick Green aged 87 registered Mar qtr 1963 Durham North eastern RD
Volume 1a Page   631

[mulberry-rose]

It's a pity you didn't find this six months ago. You could have looked at the creed register on FamilySearch to see if any more info. These records are no longer available
Woolwich Institution, register of inmates, creed register (alphabetical), May 1935-September 1940, (Ref) WOBG/063/03

Admission and discharge registers up to February 1939.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1411240

That’s frustrating! Thank you for the link though. I don’t think I’ll be travelling over 4000 miles for their family centre 

[Neale1961]

As you explore the Green family a bit more, you might find siblings of Patrick who emigrated, so you might look for the possibility of Patrick visiting them abroad at some point after WW1.

Patrick Green born 15 Apr 1876 at 2.45AM at Pound Street, Baillieston.
Parents Francis Green (miner) and Annie Dillon.


Francis GREEN born 14/7/1849 Glasgow Lanark; burial 29/12/1905 Glasgow   
      Son of Patrick GREEN and Catherine COX

Marriage 25 Sept 1873 Glasgow

Ann DILLON / DULLON  born 9/10/1853 Old Monkland; burial 11/1/1912 Glasgow   
      Daughter of Patrick DILLON and Anne DRANE

   
Children of Francis Green and Ann Dillon
o   Mary Ann 1874
o   Patrick 1876
o   Jane 1880 - 1886
o   Margaret 1882
o   Catherine 1884- 1885
o   Catherine 1886- 1887
o   Elizabeth 1888
o   Martha 1890
o   Francis 1892

[mulberry-rose]

sancti

Thank you for the possible death, I think I ruled that out in the past but I’ll have a look again.

Neale

Out of his siblings I think only one brother and three sisters survived. Francis, Mary Ann, Margaret and Elizabeth.

Those with the mothers maiden name Dillon I found;

Mary Ann 21 Aug 1874
Patrick 15 Apr 1876
Margaret 1878 - 1881
Jane Jun 1880 - 19 Apr 1886
Margaret 1882
Catherine 1884 - 1885
Catherine 1886 - 1887
Elizabeth 1888
Martha 1890 - 1891
Francis 1892 - 1892
Francis 1894
Martha 1898 - 1899

Mary Ann died Calcart, Glasgow - 1931

Francis died Cambuslang - 1972

[mulberry-rose]

Possibly him in the 1921 census? The age and lack of children makes me concerned.

Name: Patrick Green
Age: 48y 11m
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widowed
Born: Lanark, Glasgow
Occupation: (illegible) Labourer
Dependant Children: 0
Address: 91 Surrey Street

Parish of Govan, Gorbals

[Forfarian]

It's a pity you didn't find this six months ago. You could have looked at the creed register on FamilySearch to see if any more info. These records are no longer available
Woolwich Institution, register of inmates, creed register (alphabetical), May 1935-September 1940, (Ref) WOBG/063/03 Admission and discharge registers up to February 1939.

They may no longer be available on FS, but they should be available via whichever repository holds the original documents.

The reference points to the archives of the Woolwich Board of Guardians, which are held by the London Metropolitan Archives https://search.lma.gov.uk/scripts/mwimain.dll?logon&application=UNION_VIEW&language=144&file=[WWW_LMA]home.html

[Neale1961]

Possibly him in the 1921 census? The age and lack of children makes me concerned.

Yes, the difficulties with such a common name.
Also, in case you didn’t notice, there was another Patrick Green born in Glasgow about a week after your man- also Roman Catholic.