Graham family from Obley New South Wales

[janiemae]

I am looking for any information regarding the "Graham" family who lived in Obley NSW.   My husband's great-great grandmother was born in Obely in 1800's.   I cannot find a date of birth, just a place.   I cannot find her birth certificate.      I do however, have the birth certificate of her daughter ( Elizabeth) that lists the mother's name as - Elizabeth Betsy Graham, born in Obley.   I have been given information that Elizabeth Betsy Graham's Father was named John and Mother Barbara.  It is this line that I am interested in.  The Obley "Graham" family.

Elizabeth Betsy Graham's line seems to be Aboriginal.   Elizabeth Betsy Graham married a Joseph  May in 1874 at Eulomogo.

Hopefully someone can wade through ramblings.  I am not that good at putting all this ancestry into words.   I get a little confused at times.
Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Would appreciate any help with this matter.   

[giblet]

Do you have the marriage cert. for Joseph May and ELizabeth? IF filled out correctly there might be some information that might help.

2277/1874 MAY  JOSEPH  -- GRAHAME  ELIZABETH  - DUBBO

Maybe it wont be real useful 

Many pre-1896 marriages do not have complete information in the Registers. It was not compulsory to record Birthplace, Age or Parents of the parties to the marriage on civil records until 1896. Sometimes this information has been added later by the Registry after referring to the parish register.
https://nswtranscriptions.com.au/pages/about-nsw-marriage-certificates.php

[giblet]

Do you have a death for Elizabeth Betsy?

[maddys52]

Hello janiemae and welcome to RootsChat.

What year was the birth of Elizabeth, whose mother was Elizabeth Betsy GRAHAM? Is there any other information on the certificate - who was present (the mother, or someone else) etc.

There was definitely a William GRAHAM around Obley in 1860, he is advertising his claim to some property in Wellington.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/63597121  (3rd column)

Will keep looking 

[shume]

"Elizabeth Betsy Graham's line seems to be Aboriginal."

What evidence do you have for this?  Also Betsy is often  a familiar name for Elizabeth

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[sparrett]

If you use this link to search NSW Archives, type in Graham Obley.
https://mhnsw.au/collections/state-archives-collection/

There is a sketched map showing the land holdings of John and George Graham .

There is also a PDF of the application for probate in the death of a John Graham, grazier in 1892 and the full will is digitised. It favours his wife Sarah.

Perhaps this is part of the right family.
Sue

[sparrett]

If this is the right family, this lengthy obituary for Sarh Graham may b of interest.
I am not quite sure of your time lines here
For instance at what age did Elizabeth Betsy marry?


https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/77594785?searchTerm=%22sarah%20graham%20obley%22~12

Sue

[Dundee]

I have been given information that Elizabeth Betsy Graham's Father was named John and Mother Barbara. 

If it is this baptism that you are referring to then she is not the one you are after.  I can see a number of family trees on Ancestry which incorrectly name John and Barbara as your Elizabeth's parents.

Elizabeth Shirreff GRAHAME
Baptism Date    25 Sep. 1848
Baptism Place    Sydney, Cumberland, New South Wales, Australia
Father: John GRAHAME
Mother: Barbara SHIRREFF
FHL Film Number    993972

This person married Edward HUNT at Maitland in 1874 and died in Queensland in 1922.

Debra 

[janiemae]

Registration Number 06459
Date of Death 22 JUN 1887
Place of Death MURRUMBIDGERIE
Name ELIZABETH MAY
Occupation MARRIED WOMAN
Sex FEMALE
Age 38
Cause of Death CHILD BIRTH, HAEMORRHAGE
Duration 5 DAYS
Medical Attendant DR WARREN, ONE HOUR AFTER DEATH
Father - GRAHAM
Father's Occupation LABOURER
Mother - Maiden Name NOT KNOWN
Informant JOSEPH MAY, HUSBAND, MURRUMBIDGERIE; REGISTERED 30 JUN
1887, DUBBO
When Buried 24 JUN 1887
Where DUBBO CEMETERY
Undertaker WM. THOS. LEWIS
Minister REVD. CANON WILSON
Religion CHURCH OF ENGLAND
Witnesses JOSEPH MAY, JOHN MAY
Where born OBLEY, N.S. WALES
Time in Colony/State NATIVE
Place Married EULOMOGO
Age at Marriage 25
Spouse JOSEPH MAY
Children of Marriage JANE MAY 3, INFANT 5 DAYS OLD.

This is the death certificate transcription for Elizabeth May, daughter of Elizabeth Graham/e.  I cannot seem to find anything from all this information.      I will try to post the birth certificate, but haven't had any luck posting it.  Copy and paste doesn't seem to work, or file is in the wrong format.    I will keep trying though.    I will also try to post a copy of the marriage certificate when Elizabeth May married Samuel William Sampson.

I really appreciate all the help that has been given to me thus far.