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Re: Graham family from Obley New South Wales
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 26 October 23 09:51 BST (UK) »
You have possibly already seen this interesting item from 1929 - Elizabeth's son Samuel William SAMPSON in trouble for forging a cheque. Mentions his parents divorced when he was 7 (c1914) and Michael Edward KELLY is his step father.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/113463951
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/218371539

Previous charge in 1926
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/145252773

and a description:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/252056862

Another charge in 1929. Mentions that Frederick (maybe Edward - mentioned in the first article above)  George OWERS lived in the same house as Samuel's mother (Elizabeth) in Foster St, Parkes.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/113460953

Another:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/113462994

Conviction overturned:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/113463841

Another case of forgery in 1930:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/132088397

There are more articles about all these events if you search trove. I'm not sure whether it would have been reported in those days, but none of them mention him being of Aboriginal descent, or half caste.  :-\

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Re: Graham family from Obley New South Wales
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 26 October 23 10:27 BST (UK) »
Again, you might have already seen these - Various items about the divorce in 1918:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/143227859
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15783185

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Re: Graham family from Obley New South Wales
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 26 October 23 11:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you Maddys52.   I had read a few of the articles on Trove, but not all of the ones you had found.   You certainly know how to search on Trove, whilst I can only get a smattering of results.

Yes, Samuel Sampson Jnr was a bit of a naughty boy indeed, always in trouble.   
That family, after the divorce was a very dysfunctional family.   I had been told by Cyril Sampson's granddaughter that the children had been put in care at one stage.  Cyril certainly had been in care until the age of I think 14, then  he went back home to Dubbo looking for his father, but found his mother and Michael Kelly and his older brother and trouble. 

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Re: Graham family from Obley New South Wales
« Reply #22 on: Friday 27 October 23 05:31 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Maddys52.    I must be doing something wrong, as the link doesn't work for me!!

When I search Dependent children registers, I get a view only at the reading rooms.

Is that the information that you have passed onto me, or am I really dumb and just unable to see it.

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« Reply #23 on: Friday 27 October 23 05:36 BST (UK) »
Sorry, think I had a very "blonde" moment.    Have found the sites manually.

Thanks very much.

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« Reply #24 on: Friday 27 October 23 09:20 BST (UK) »
Sorry about that. I don't know why the links to the actual images didn't work. But glad you found them through the search page.  :D

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Re: Graham family from Obley New South Wales
« Reply #25 on: Friday 27 October 23 10:24 BST (UK) »
It  was a very interesting read, some children were together and others not, but  moved around a bit.   

I felt so sorry for the Sampson children, what a life they must have had!
A daughter of one of the May/Kelly offspring said that that she remembered her mother (Elizabeth) being very loving and caring!    That daughter of Elizabeth and Michael Kelly was also put into care when Elizabeth died in 1933, but the records do not include those years.

I had seen the photo of naughty boy Samuel before.

Thanks so very much for all this wonderful information, really appreciate your effort.

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Re: Graham family from Obley New South Wales
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 28 October 23 01:25 BST (UK) »
Hi  janiemae
In your efforts to learn more about Elizabeth Betsy Graham, had you fully explored the early life of Jane May, the sister of the infant Elizabeth May.
Apparently born about 1884, though I do not see a registration on the index, do you?

She married very young (Reg 1164/1900 )and sadly died at 21 years (Reg 4839/1905 ). Buried Dubbo

Who took care of her in her early years  after her mother's death?

Also was there a brother to these 2 girls, named Samuel May?

It's just that there is a match of parental names, dates and co-incidence of some places for this person born 1876 at Wellington.

I think you are going to need as many life event certificates as possible relating to Elizabeth Betsy and her offspring if you are to get any further clues.

Expensive, but as she is a direct line ancestor, may be worth the pennies.

Sue



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