Rachel Jones

[philsearch]

My very unproven theory is John, son of William and Ann nee Williams.Ann Williams family were at Goldcroft common in Caerleon in 1851 with a John aged 2 staying with them. I have no proof but a hunch.

[philsearch]

Sorry, meant to say William and Ann in Llangibby with a dying daughter Isabella.

[osprey]

this John as a possible then?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGT2-2ML

[philsearch]

Yes Osprey I think it’s a good possibility but like I said no proof. At the age of 12 John is still there as a Grandson. Isabella has died. William and Ann have another Isabella and by 1871they are all together in Darlington along with Ann’s sister Mary born Caerleon. If it is My grt grandad John I have info coming forward but not going back with William. Thanks once again, Phil

[osprey]

so in Middlesbrough by 1861
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7HR-KJM

birth reg Isabella Jones dec qtr 1857 Newport vol 11a pg 189 mmn Williams
no reg for William or John showing with mmn Williams

By 1871 William has died and Ann has married John Daniels - dec qtr 1869 Darlington vol 10a pg 47.
William, Isabella & John with them on the census. RG10/4884 folio 85 pg 45.

I think John may have died march qtr 1873 age 38 registered Stockton and buried 20 Feb 1873 in Linthorpe Cemetery.

But haven't spotted Ann & her children after this as yet. So, as you say, no proof.

[philsearch]

I think Isabella marries William Bradley n 1875. John is at St Julians in 1881 which I know is correct.

[osprey]

ok, yes, see them on the 1881 with 2 children Mary A & Cecelia. Isabella & children emigrate to the US in 1891 and William is a widower by 1900 and only Mary Ann with him.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMDR-MCV

[philsearch]

Thankyou Osprey. I googled Youngstown. It didn’t look so good back then. I looked on freebmd for John Jones in Newport and there were 3 in 1849. Who holds the records these days? As Pontypool said he wasn’t there. Thanks in advance, Phil

[osprey]

Given that John's age of birth on census entries usually ends in a 2, it doesn't mean that he was born in 1849. The census was taken end of March/start of April 1851-1911, so he may have been born in 1848. The ones registered in 1849 are later in the year so would show as 1, 11 and so on.

The registrars in Newport are here
https://www.newport.gov.uk/en/Council-Democracy/Registrar-service/Registrars.aspx

But as I have already mentioned, I've checked the GRO index and there is no John Jones registered around the time in Newport area with mother's maiden name Williams. You can check for yourself.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp