Who are the parents?

[Lazarus]

I am hoping that some kind person can help me determine who are the parents of the grandchildren Elizabeth and Henry listed on the 1851 Census at Blackshaw Glossop.This was a farm of 30 acres and those present were:

[Lazarus]

Present on 1851 Census Blackshaw.
Joseph Wyatt 63
Ellen Wyatt 53
Dorathy Wyatt 21
Mary Ann 15
Ellen 13 Joseph 8
Thomas 6
Elizabeth 2 gran.dau.
Henry 1 grandson

I need parents of Henry and Elizabeth.

[carol8353]

Hi there Lazarus

Are you sure the children's surname is Wyatt? I've checked for Henry and Elizabeths together in 1861 but have found none that fit.

Here's the rest of the family though,still at Blackshaw,Glossop.

Cephas Wyatt abt 1831  Glossop,   Son 
Ellen Wyatt abt 1799  Glossop, , Wife 
Ellen Wyatt abt 1840  Glossop,  Daughter 
Joseph Wyatt abt 1789  Glossop,  Head   
Joseph Wyatt abt 1843  Glossop,  Son 
Mary A Wyatt abt 1837  Glossop,  Daughter 

Are the two youngsters also born in Glossop on the 1851?

I did find a Henry and Elizabeth WIGHT,but she was only 7 and he 11,with a step dad called Harrison,mum maybe remarried.......but not really convinced

Regards

Carol

[Lazarus]

Thank you Carol for the prompt reply.
I have found Henry later in life married to a Mary Travis but I still need to identify his (and Elizabeths) parents.The 1851 Census sheet which I have suggests they were both born Derbyshire Blackshaw (which is the name of the farm.They appear to carry the Wyatt surname.Of course if they were born out of wedlock they could carry the Wyatt name.
A daughter Dorathy (21) had family out of wedlock but I am pretty sure Elizabeth and Henry are not hers.
There was a son John bC1826 who was not at home in 1851.I do not know if he married.Could he have been in the services in 1851.
Joseph and Ellen Wyatt were my gg grandparents,a son Joseph having settled in Australia.
It will be terrific if you can help further.It is a real brick wall in my research.
Thank you.
Lazarus (Rex)

[Nessie]

Don't know if this may be a red herring but the childrens dates seem to fit.

RG9/1961/93/16

Repton.

Elizabeth Wayte head widow age 38 annuitant born Birmingham.

Henry son age 11

Elizabeth dau age 10

Thomas son age 9

William son age 7

All children born Repton Derbyshire.

Fanny Glover and Emma Brooks servants. Seems as if there is money somewhere and may fit in with your Wyatts as the name could be transcribed as Wayte.

What do you think Carol?

[carol8353]

HI Nessie

Probably not I'm afraid to say. Repton to Glossop is about 50 miles 
Don't think you'd say one if you meant the other.
But of course as we all know stranger things have happened.

Rex, I've seen your other posts on this subject and am intrigued by the White/Tagg link.Don't discount this,just say Wyatt out loud and you can easily get White......especially to people with different accents or those who are a bit mutt and Jeff  (deaf)

I'll come back to this later after I've been round Sainsburys 

ATB

Carol

[carol8353]

Rex

Have you ever thought of applying for the birth certs 

These two might well be them .Unfotunately the ref number for Elizabeth is not clear and therefore it could not be transcribed on Free BMD.
Hayfield is also described as Glossop.

You can get them from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp at a cost of £7 and they do now post abroad.

Births Sep 1849 WYATT  Elizabeth     Hayfield  19 *   

Births Mar 1850   Wyatt  Henry     Hayfield &c.  19 555 

All the best

Carol 

[Lazarus]

Thanks again Carol
Your latest came through as I was typing an earlier reply.
I will take up your suggestion as it looks very much that certificates should give the answer.I think the Hayfield entries must be the ones.

Regards
Rex