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Alfred Ralph Overall
« on: Thursday 26 October 23 15:15 BST (UK) »
Looking for birth details of his daughter Estella Overall born Montreal Also marriage details of his daughter Gwenneth Violet Overall born 1926 Montreal married name Fetzer. Also marriage details of Estella married name Lamarche. Family also moved to USA at some time details unknown. Alfred Ralph Overall was born 26/6/1901 Montreal and married Violet Williams date unknown but I guess around early 1920s. Any information would be appreciated
Overal from Co Durham,
Overall from Finchingfield, Essex
Craig from Cumbria and Co Durham
Harrington from Essex
Anderson from Co Durham and Yorkshire,
Shaw from Selby and Darlington

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Re: Alfred Ralph Overall
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 26 October 23 15:46 BST (UK) »
He was still single in 1922 when he returned to Canada on the S.S. Tunisian

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:68JC-R884

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Re: Alfred Ralph Overall
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 26 October 23 15:56 BST (UK) »
Yes Kloumann I had this information. I assume he must have married shortly after this. Thanks
Overal from Co Durham,
Overall from Finchingfield, Essex
Craig from Cumbria and Co Durham
Harrington from Essex
Anderson from Co Durham and Yorkshire,
Shaw from Selby and Darlington

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Re: Alfred Ralph Overall
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 26 October 23 16:01 BST (UK) »
Yes Kloumann I had this information. I assume he must have married shortly after this. Thanks

But we didn't so is helpful to us to know when to start looking for the marriage.  :)

Where was his wife born and do you have either of them on census in Canada
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Re: Alfred Ralph Overall
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 26 October 23 16:27 BST (UK) »
USA censuses are free to search on Family Search

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list?cqs=United+states+census

You need to establish when they moved to the US as the marriage info you want may be US not Canada
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Re: Alfred Ralph Overall
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 26 October 23 16:41 BST (UK) »
From the Drouin Collection on Anc :

Alfred Ralph OVERALL , bachelor , driver , son of Arthur OVERALL and his wife Elizabeth FENN both of the City of Montreal , and Violet WILLIAMS , spinster , daughter of Eugene Augustus WILLIAMS deceased and of his wife Louisa PEARCE of the City of Montreal ,  were united in the Holy Bonds of Matrimony..... 11 Jan 1924  Montreal Methodist West End , St Joseph.
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Re: Alfred Ralph Overall
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 26 October 23 16:53 BST (UK) »
The marriage of Gwenneth to Orvis C Fetzer was apparently in Buffalo New York 17 April 1965 (index info from Anc).

Estella appears to be Elspeth? Elspeth Rose…(?) born 14 June 1927, baptized 13 Nov 1927, Cowansville Quebec. Parents Alfred Ralph Overall and Violet Louise Williams. Anc has the image if you have access, familysearch will also have it.

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Re: Alfred Ralph Overall
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 26 October 23 16:55 BST (UK) »
New York State Marriage Index :

Orvis C FETZER and Gwenneth OVERALL 1965 Buffalo NY

The names are shortened in the index , but an Ancestry tree has the date as 12 April 1965.
EDIT above already posted by polarbear.
She appears to have lived in the Bronx and Buffalo :
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KVJ5-7ZR
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Re: Alfred Ralph Overall
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 26 October 23 17:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone excellent information and tree updated. Just need marriage details for Estella (Elspeth Rose) if possible.
Overal from Co Durham,
Overall from Finchingfield, Essex
Craig from Cumbria and Co Durham
Harrington from Essex
Anderson from Co Durham and Yorkshire,
Shaw from Selby and Darlington