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Re: Look up Request Thomas Thomas & Elizabeth Day
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 31 October 23 10:01 GMT (UK) »
Wonder if this is their marriage?

Marriages Sep Q 1892   
DAY    Elizabeth        Swansea    11a   1247    
Johns    Louisa Julia        Swansea    11a   1247    
SODEN    Harry McManus        Swansea    11a   1247    
Thomas    Thomas        Swansea    11a   1247

Possibly they moved after 1891 or married in another district to save face with friends/neighbours as already had family?

The other couple married each other they are together in 1901. So This Thomas married Elizabeth day

Snap Trish just spotted the marriage  :)

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
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Re: Look up Request Thomas Thomas & Elizabeth Day
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 31 October 23 10:09 GMT (UK) »
Don't know if you have it but daughter  Elizabeth Ann Thomas died 1921 after census was taken she is with family in Swansea 1921

Deaths Sep Q 1921   
Watts Elizabeth A  age 35    Swansea 11a 940   

Looks like she is buried in same vault as husband William Merritt Watts, Cockett Cemetery.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/201073309/william-merritt-watts
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/201072763/elizabeth-ann-watts

Looks like possibly a few of her children are buried same cem. Not checked her children.

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Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
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Re: Look up Request Thomas Thomas & Elizabeth Day
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 31 October 23 10:14 GMT (UK) »
All good Cas, great minds think alike :)
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Re: Look up Request Thomas Thomas & Elizabeth Day
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 31 October 23 10:25 GMT (UK) »
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Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
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Re: Look up Request Thomas Thomas & Elizabeth Day
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 01 November 23 20:08 GMT (UK) »
Apologies for not responding sooner and thanks for all your efforts, as trying to process all the information given thank you

My thought so far:

Marriage details found showing Elizabeth Day married1892 Swansea, Glamorgan to either Thomas Thomas or Harry Mcmanus Soden   

Louisa Julia Johns & Harry Mcmanus Soden found on same 1901 Census therefore, Elizabeth Day married Thomas Thomas in 1892  Swansea, Glamorgan
 
Thomas Thomas  Sept qtr 1892 Swansea
Volume, 11a Page, 1247

Elizabeth Day appears with same reference

Louisa Julia Johns & Harry Mcmanus Soden named on same page and volume

Elizabeth Thomas formerly Day Born abt 1856 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, 

Birth Record for Elizabeth Day found (birth quarter 2) birth year given as 1852 mother’s maiden name “Morgan” page 63 volume 11a (doubt about if this is my Elizabeth Day
 
David Thomas   Born abt 1867   Llandeilo Carmarthenshire

Marriage for David Thomas 1896 naming Thomas Thomas father as a Carpenter page 117 no 233 Monmouthshire

Death detals for Thomas Thomas from 1906 Llandovery, Camarthenshire (quarter 3) Page 11a Volume 573   
 
Elizabeth’s birth year indicates she is not the mother of David and that Thomas David Thomas was married previously, 
 

99.9% sure Thomas Thomas first wife was Anne Jones who died 1874 and also the mother of David Thomas Born abt 1867 need to do a bit more work on the element to remove any doubt as David not listed 

"think this is a good 1871 for Thomas with first wife" 

Carmarthen, Llandeilo Fawr, 
Address: George & Dragon Inn 
Piece   5486, Folio   59, Page number   17 
 
Thomas Thomas 26   Head, Carpenter & Inn Keeper, Llangadock, Carmarthenshire 
Anne Thomas 24   Wife, Conwyl Cays Carmarthenshire (Conwyl Caio?) 
John Thomas   1   Son, Llandeilo 
Jane Thomas 21   Sister, dressmaker, Llangadock 
Margaret Evans 18   Servant 
 

 Any further assistance would be greatfully appreciated

Best Regards Ron

Thomas, Watts, Knudson, Eaton, Weepers, Bartram, Brammer, Francis

Northampton, Guisborough, Middlesbrough, Swansea

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Re: Look up Request Thomas Thomas & Elizabeth Day
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 01 November 23 20:16 GMT (UK) »
Do you need Thomas back to 1851 I mentioned?

Located a possible marriage 1896 for David with father Thomas a carpenter but no telling if it is him.

There is this possible death, but there are others

Deaths Dec Q 1900   
Thomas    Thomas David  age 54 Swansea    11a   510

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
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Re: Look up Request Thomas Thomas & Elizabeth Day
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 01 November 23 20:33 GMT (UK) »
Also if you check 1881 & 1891 for Elizabeth POB it just states Monmouthshire, no mention of Abergavenny.  That is where they are living in census.
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Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
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Re: Look up Request Thomas Thomas & Elizabeth Day
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 01 November 23 20:45 GMT (UK) »
Anyway here is the 1861 living Llangadock

All born Llangadock, Carmarthenshire.  Registration district Llandovery

David Thomas 43   Head farmer 45 acres
Ester Thomas 53   Wife
Mary Thomas 19   Daughter
Thomas Thomas   15   Son
Jane Thomas 12   Daughter

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
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Re: Look up Request Thomas Thomas & Elizabeth Day
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 01 November 23 20:47 GMT (UK) »
1851 Llangadock

David Thomas 33 farmer of 20 acres
Esther Thomas 43
Mary Thomas 9
Thomas Thomas   6
Jane Thomas 2

Added: in 1871 David is a publican. 1881 David is an Innkeeper & farrier

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland