John Barton born c1827 Ilkeston

[avidt]

Hi

I am looking for the baptism of John Barton , the Census shows him born 1827 in Ilkeston  I am trying to find his parents. In the 1841 Census, he is shown living with Thomas Barton born Derbyshire c1771

Any help would be much appreciated.

Regards  David

[CaroleW]

Does he name a father on his marriage cert?

EDIT

If he married Millicent Smith then his father was Benjamin occ labourer according to the marriage cert

[Neale1961]

There is a Benjamin Barton and Fanny Winfield with children baptised in Ilkeston in the 1820s.
They were married there in 1823

Added - I think the records are patchy because they were non-conformist.

[heywood]

The John Barton with Thomas Barton is in Ashbourne.

There is a John Barton, 15 yrs in Ilkeston, ‘Gallows Inn’.
The census page shows ‘female’ but the name reads John and the occupation ‘M S’ . There are two ‘F S’ - female servants also.
1841 189/5/5

[avidt]

Hi All

Thanks for that very useful information, I nearly went down the wrong Line. I would agree that the parents must be Benjamin and Fanny Winfield.I now need to find their wedding.

Kind Regards

David

[CaroleW]

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/30592678:9852

[Neale1961]

Benjamin BARTON born 31 Dec 1803; baptised 6 Feb 1804 Ilkeston Protestant
Son of John and Elizabeth (abode – Cotmanhay)

Fanny WINFIELD baptised 7 Apr 1805 Ilkeston St Mary.
Daughter of William and Mary


Marriage 16 Nov 1823 Ilkeston St Mary.
Benjamin BARTON (bachelor) to Fanny WINFIELD (spinster)
Both made their mark X. Witnesses – Thomas Durow and Wm Tunnicliff



Information from the 1824 baptism of daughter Sarah Barton in Ilkeston Wesleyan Methodist
Sarah daughter of Benjamin and  Fanny of Cotmanhay, Ilkeston.
Fanny the daughter of William and Mary Winfield.



In the 1841 census (Cotmanhay, Ilkeston), Benjamin is working as a frame work knitter. No sign of Fanny. Daughters with him – Catharine 13, Mary 11, Elizabeth 9.
 in 1841 Wife Fanny and daughter Sarah are living separately in Ilkeston

In 1851, 1861, 1871 Bemjamin is an agricultural labourer.
In 1851 he is recorded as married but no sign of Fanny. By 1861 Benjamin is a widower.

[Neale1961]

This is 1 generation earlier ---

Marriage 25 Nov 1776 at Greasley, St Mary.
John BARTON (of Ilkeston) and Elizabeth MEAKIN

Children Baptised Ilkeston (independent / protestant) –
•   Thomas Making Barton born 5 Dec 1777
•   David Barton born 30 Jan 1780
•   Sarah Barton bapt 25 mar 1782
•   William Barton born 7 May 1784
•   Hannah Barton born 3 Nay 1786
•   Joseph Barton born 15 or 16 Nov 1792
•   Mary Barton born 11 Oct 1796
•   John Barton born 15 Sep 1801
•   Benjamin Barton born 31 Dec 1803


Burial 28 Mar 1824 – John Barton of Cotmanhay – age 67. Ilkeston St Mary
      (possible bapt for him in Mar 1756 Ilkeston – son of Jos and Mar Barton)

Burial 29 mar 1829 – Elizth Barton of Cotmanhay – age 72. Ilkeston St Mary