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Trace Ancestor
« on: Thursday 02 November 23 12:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I am trying to trace any history of my late great grandfather who was First Sargent THomas Brown Berkshire Regiment.

He was living in Richmond Barracks in January 1906 with his wife Annie Brown and they had a child in Dr Steevens hospital, South Dublin !! January 1906.

We have no trace of any of them after this date. Possibly the daughter was adopted as living in London in 1911 under another name. Maybe her father went on to fight in the first world war?

Thank you in advance for any help of guidance to help solve our mystery whilst my father is alive at 92!

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Re: Trace Ancestor
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 November 23 21:26 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat.  :)

Do you have an approximate birth date for Thomas?  Unfortunately Thomas Brown is a common name and there seem to have been several in the Berkshire regiment.  Any such detail might help determine which Thomas.

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Re: Trace Ancestor
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 November 23 21:35 GMT (UK) »
How does your father connect to the Brown family?  ie who does he connect back to?  Are you saying that there may have been children to the couple before the child born in Dublin in 1906? 

Here is the birth registration

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01752/1691158.pdf
Annie Bessie Brown born 7/1/1906. Her mother's maiden name seems to be Raven

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 November 23 21:37 GMT (UK) »
Here is a link to the birth record.
Father is in 1st Berkshire regiment
Mother is Annie Raven

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01752/1691158.pdf
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 November 23 21:50 GMT (UK) »
Annie Ruth Raven marriage to Thomas Brown
Jan-Mar 1903 Reading Berkshire


Their son - baptised in Bengal India 30 Jan 1908 (born 2 Jan 1908)
Thomas Henry William Brown

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGW8-2BL


(I'm speculating from the names given to this first son, that as Annie's father was named William, Thomas' father might be Henry)

ADDED - In 1911 this son, Thomas Brown (age 3) is living with his grandparents William and Annie Raven in Reading. His birth place incorrectly recorded as East Indies, should be India.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Trace Ancestor
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 November 23 21:55 GMT (UK) »
In 1911 census Sutherland House in Windlesham, Surrey (looks like a private school)
Annie Ruth Brown age 29 is widowed working as a servant/ cook (3 children recorded)


This is Annie Ruth Raven with her parents and siblings in 1891 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:71JF-13Z

Annie in 1901 census. She is working in the Royal Berkshire Hospital
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS3F-K1Y
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 02 November 23 23:01 GMT (UK) »
If I am on the right track then Thomas Brown (of 1st Berkshire regiment) died sometime between 1907 and 1911.
The next step would be to get the marriage certificate to get more information about Thomas. This might make it easier to find a death for him.

Marriage Jan-Mar 1903 Reading Berkshire - Annie Ruth Raven to Thomas Brown


The mother appears to have been
Annie Ruth Raven born 1882 in Bradfield Berkshire (father William Raven, mother Annie Brunsden)

Birth Registration (surname mis-spelled)
RABEN, ANNIE  RUTH           Mother - BRUNSDEN 
GRO Reference: 1882  M Quarter in BRADFIELD  Volume 02C  Page 351

I would look for her in the 1921 census with the surname Brown, or look for possible marriages for her after 1911
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 November 23 01:58 GMT (UK) »
A possible for Thomas Brown ?  (but marriage cert. is needed to confirm)
Born Sept quarter 1873 Wantage  - son of Henry Brown and Lucy Rumble.
He is with his parents in East Ilsley, Berkshire in the 1881 and 1891 census.  But, I don’t see him after that. If he had joined the military, he would have been abroad during 1901 census. ( 1st Berkshire reg was in Gibraltar)
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 November 23 02:41 GMT (UK) »
Excellent work Neale1961.  Just pointing out the child born in India in 1908 Thomas Henry William Brown has Henry as one of his first names.  Perhaps William is for Annie's father?