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[Cosmos55]

Hi. I am amazed at the speedy response and detail of information provided. Thank you. Would anybody be able to guide me in the direction of adoption for Annie - possibly after February 1906 when her birth was registered in Dublin and before the 1911 Census living in London? Annie Bessie Brown changed of name to Freida Stephanie Hayward?

[KGarrad]

Legal, formal, adoption wasn't in place until 1926.

Before then you are looking at informal adoption.
Maybe a religious organisation?

P.S. Welcome to RootsChat

[Neale1961]

Hello again Cosmos55. Could you please let us know what information that you have that confirms that Annie Bessie Brown is the same person as Freida Stephanie Hayward? Do you have DNA evidence, or other documents?

…. between February 1906 and April 1911 (Census) my grandmother 'Annie Bessie Brown DOB 11 January 1906' was living in Kings Road London with her adoptee parents Louis Hayward and Mary Elizabeth Hayward ……

What information do you have that confirms she was at that address between 1906 and 1911? If she is Annie Brown, I would expect she’d be in India until 1908 or later.

She changed her name by deed poll sometime later to Freida Stephanie Felton …..

On the 1939 reg. her name change to FELTON is dated 2.7.1959.

[shanreagh]

Hi

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She married my grandfather in Bristol and became 'Freida Stephanie Barraclough'.
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When she married your grandfather in Bristol in XXXyear(pl supply)  what names did she enter as family members on her marriage certificate please?

I am wondering:

1   if Annie was left behind in the care of the Haywards while the parents went to India.  Thomas was born in India later.  Perhaps it was never the intention that it be permanent but her father's death and her mother coming back to England in perhaps straitened circumstances meant her mother left her where she was. 

or

2 Annie was left with the Haywards when the family of Annie, Thomas  and their mother returned from India after the death of Thomas Snr.

Have we tracked what happened to Annie Raven Brown and Thomas Henry William Brown who was born in India in 1908, after they returned to England, presuming they did return. 

[Neale1961]

She married in Bristol in 1929. Father recorded as Louis Hayward.

[shanreagh]

Here is the Family Search record for Thomas jnr born 2/1/1908 & christened on 30/1/1908.    Annie has another first name added of Ruth and the child's nationality is shown as American? 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGW8-2BL

And this is an interesting one

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6VY9-8445

Seems to indicate that Thomas may have been born in 1903 and christened in 1908.  If he was going to a church school in India at age 5 it may have been a requirement that he be christened. Or using the Occam's Razor approach they may have mistranscribed the 1903 to 1908. 

[Neale1961]

Here is the Family Search record for Thomas jnr born 2/1/1908 & christened on 30/1/1908.    Annie has another first name added of Ruth and the child's nationality is shown as American? 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGW8-2BL

And this is an interesting one

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6VY9-8445

Seems to indicate that Thomas may have been born in 1903 and christened in 1908.  If he was going to a church school in India at age 5 it may have been a requirement that he be christened. Or using the Occam's Razor approach they may have mistranscribed the 1903 to 1908.

The 1903 birth date is a mis-transcription. he was 3 in the 1911 census.
See earlier posts. His parents married in England in 1903.

[shanreagh]

Yes I see he was with his maternal grandparents aged 3 in the 1911 census. 

[shanreagh]

In 1911 census Sutherland House in Windlesham, Surrey (looks like a private school)
Annie Ruth Brown age 29 is widowed working as a servant/ cook (3 children recorded)


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Who are the three children recorded please?