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Re: Tynemouth marriage banns
« Reply #9 on: Friday 03 November 23 07:36 GMT (UK) »
I’m sorry everyone, Elizabeth Chambers marriage was to Thomas Lumley, Elizabeth’s father was a William Chambers and it was in the presence of Thomas Chambers.
We have been trying to find a connection between Elizabeth and William or Elizabeth and Thomas or William and Thomas but haven’t been able to.  I was thinking it might be William Chambers shipwright
but can’t find him at all with either a Thomas or Elizabeth.
I keep coming back to the 41 census with Ann 25 and Elizabeth 20 but so far I haven’t been able to connect Ann to any of the above, I have searched newspaper articles which is where I find most useful info but no luck.
I have now emailed the GRO to ask if I would get a full certificate for Thomas Lumley and Elizabeth Chambers marriage. 
Thank you to all for help and advice.

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Re: Tynemouth marriage banns
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 04 November 23 08:04 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if this has been noted yet but on the Bapt of Thomas Chambers 26 Mar 1807 St Hilda, South Shields;

Father native of Fishlick York` Mother native of Whitby York`e By his wife 1st son
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Re: Tynemouth marriage banns
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 04 November 23 11:40 GMT (UK) »
I have looked at the Church entry on microfilm and William's occupation is recorded:

Christ Church
Entry 304
9 April 1846
Thomas Lumley & Elizabeth Chambers
Both Full age
Bachelor & Spinster
His occupation: Teacher
Both: This Parish
Fathers:
Stephen Lumley - Wool (Comber?)
William Chambers - Shipwright
Thomas signed name; Elizabeth made her mark
Witnesses: Thomas Chambers & Robert Davison
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner

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Re: Tynemouth marriage banns
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 04 November 23 12:15 GMT (UK) »
I have looked at the Church entry on microfilm and William's occupation is recorded:

Christ Church
Entry 304
9 April 1846
Thomas Lumley & Elizabeth Chambers
Both Full age
Bachelor & Spinster
His occupation: Teacher
Both: This Parish
Fathers:
Stephen Lumley - Wool (Comber?)
William Chambers - Shipwright
Thomas signed name; Elizabeth made her mark
Witnesses: Thomas Chambers & Robert Davison

That ties in with Jonw65's posts on your earlier thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=839276.18
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Re: Tynemouth marriage banns
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 04 November 23 12:20 GMT (UK) »
I have looked at the Church entry on microfilm and William's occupation is recorded:

You are a treasure!

As I said, two sets of registers  :) No need to send for the certificate now.

I wonder why they were still keeping an 'old style' register as well?
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Re: Tynemouth marriage banns
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 04 November 23 12:25 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for compliment, Jen. :)

Yes, there are two types of records for this Church. 
This particular microfilm shows full record.  It is at North Shields local studies.
On box is recorded:
929.3 Christ Church North Shields
and in bold is the reference:
NA 241

I know .. the mind boggles as to why they kept an old style record as well with less information. ::)
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner

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Re: Tynemouth marriage banns
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 04 November 23 12:27 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps the parish priest of the time disapproved of the new-fangled ideas about registers and was determined to keep the old ones going.

It would be interesting to know how long this practice was continued?
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Re: Tynemouth marriage banns
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 04 November 23 12:37 GMT (UK) »
There is another microfilm box reference : GS - 1068930 which records
'Marriages 25/07/1849-1868 (old certs)
&
'Marriages 1837-1839 (new style certs)

Yes, I suspect you are right about some priest disapproving of new fangled ideas! ;D
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner

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Re: Tynemouth marriage banns
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 05 November 23 15:17 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much to everyone on here for your help.  Special thanks to River Tyne Lass for the answer to our puzzle, hopefully we can now follow Stephen Chambers shipwright and get some more information.