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GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
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Re: Thomas Jones from England
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 19:20 GMT (UK) »
I recently came across a picture of my x3 great grandparents  ....
 
That's the last I know anything about Tom, Ethel and Katie.

Hello Zakerias

Just curious  ....

Q.   Which of Thomas JONES' two children (Ethel / Katie) do you descend from ??

[Did the daughter Katie (Catherine), return to England at some point to live ??  ]

   ~  Lu


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Re: Thomas Jones from England
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 19:39 GMT (UK) »
On Freebmd there is a marriage for one Katie A. JONES in the 1927, June quarter, to Morris H. PARRY @ Holyhead.

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Birth registration:

Name:  JONES, KATIE  ADELINE  -Mother's Maiden Surname SUFFLEBOTHAM  GRO Reference: 1909  D Quarter in ATHERSTONE  Volume 06D  Page 420


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Thomas Jones from England
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 21:07 GMT (UK) »
On Freebmd there is a marriage for one Katie A. JONES in the 1927, June quarter, to Morris H. PARRY @ Holyhead.

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Birth registration:

Name:  JONES, KATIE  ADELINE  -Mother's Maiden Surname SUFFLEBOTHAM  GRO Reference: 1909  D Quarter in ATHERSTONE  Volume 06D  Page 420


Minniehaha.

And ... baptised (C of E) as Katie Adeline JONES  ... but shown on the 1911 ENG Census as
Catherine JONES aged 1 year (- although as was sometimes the case, "Katie" may have been considered to be a nickname or short-form name, hence the more formal "Catherine" was entered.??? )

[That 1927 marriage > JONES - PARRY > took place at Holyhead, Wales ??  ]

   ~  Lu


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Re: Thomas Jones from England
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 21:51 GMT (UK) »
Honestly, I just wanted to thank you all for looking into this. I'm always blown away by the witchcraft and wizardry that often happens on this forum and how quickly these records are found (that I've spent a long time pondering and looking for)

I go to work and come back to this.. outstanding!

Do you know how old Ted would have been - and was he Edward Jones?

There's a passenger listing for Miss E Jones, aged 12, Miss K Jones aged 11 and Mr E Jones aged 24 departing Southampton 30 Sep 1920 on the Remuera for Wellington


Also - divorce of Thomas and Flossie Ethel JONES in 1921:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZTIM19210211.2.22 (and various other mentions in other papers)

A little more detail:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP19210218.2.80

100% the people I'm looking for, it's great to know that he emigrated in 1912. I had found Flossie in the 1921 census, living with her brother in Appleby Magna in Leicestershire. Also living with her is her 4 year old daughter, Gertrude Mary Radford Jones!

I recently came across a picture of my x3 great grandparents  ....
 
That's the last I know anything about Tom, Ethel and Katie.

Hello Zakerias

Just curious  ....

Q.   Which of Thomas JONES' two children (Ethel / Katie) do you descend from ??

[Did the daughter Katie (Catherine), return to England at some point to live ??  ]

   ~  Lu

Hi Lucy, I don't descend from either. Thomas's parents were my x3 great grandparents. This research is primarily to back up the annotation on the photo - which appears to be 100% correct.

I have no idea about either of the daughters, however, it may be worth noting that in the picture there was only one girl - the picture date is just given as "1921", the ship departed on Sept 30 1920 (no idea how long ship journeys all that way and back were). Perhaps one came back and one stayed? Maybe the photo was taken on return? I can confirm that neither Kate or Ethel were living with Edmund & Elizabeth at the time of the 1921 census. I can't find Edmund (the son) or either girl on the census, so may be they are still in New Zealand?

On Freebmd there is a marriage for one Katie A. JONES in the 1927, June quarter, to Morris H. PARRY @ Holyhead.

Added:

Birth registration:

Name:  JONES, KATIE  ADELINE  -Mother's Maiden Surname SUFFLEBOTHAM  GRO Reference: 1909  D Quarter in ATHERSTONE  Volume 06D  Page 420


Minniehaha.

I can always check out the marriage in Holyhead, the marriage cert should confirm?

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Re: Thomas Jones from England
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 22:18 GMT (UK) »
FYI..... :)

Surname     Given Name     Spouse     District     Volume     Page
________________________________________Marriages Jun 1927
________________________________________
JONES   Katie A   Parry    Holyhead   11b   1011


The district Holyhead is in the county of Anglesey;
Isle of Anglesey, Welsh Ynys Môn, Latin Mona, county, northwestern Wales, separated from the North Wales mainland by the Menai Strait. The county encompasses Anglesey island—the largest island in England and Wales, with an area of 261 square miles (676 square km)—and Holy Island, adjoining just west of Anglesey.

   
Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Thomas Jones from England
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 22:52 GMT (UK) »
From reply #13...

Births Mar 1917

Jones    Gertrude M R    Shufflebottom    Atherstone
 6d   1073


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Thomas Jones from England
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 00:57 GMT (UK) »
From reply #13...

Births Mar 1917

Jones    Gertrude M R    Shufflebottom    Atherstone
 6d   1073


Minniehaha.

R is for Radford who was the co-respondent in the divorce. So no-one would be surprised to descend per DNA from the Radford family.

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Re: Thomas Jones from England
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 01:05 GMT (UK) »
Yes I picked up that significant 'R' too...... :)


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.