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French short paragraph from Rodiere (1589)
« on: Tuesday 07 November 23 02:33 GMT (UK) »
Following on from this post of a marriage contract for Guillaume Bernard and Ysabeau Falempin
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=877892.msg7499110#msg749911

This small paragraph is on the next page of the book.
Another son of Ysembart Bernard, but what’s his name?
I’m guessing the 'her'  is an abbrevaition for ‘heir’.




Ratif(icati)on du jeudy 4 May suiv(ant) par   ?htes Bernard, lab(oureur) à Questinhen
en Broyannais fils et principal her de deff(unc)t Ysembart Bernard et de
Catherine Wasselin, donnat   ?  ?    devant declairez ; au nom de lad(ite)
Wasselin
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: French short paragraph from Rodiere (1589)
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 08:36 GMT (UK) »
Must be short for something , the first letter could be P, then h , Phillipe?

heir is correct

I read donnateurs

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Re: French short paragraph from Rodiere (1589)
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 08:52 GMT (UK) »
her = héritier = heir in English
Clarkson, Tolladay, Prevost, Killick, Hicks

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Re: French short paragraph from Rodiere (1589)
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 08:58 GMT (UK) »
A tree on geneanet shows  Ysembart BERNARD married to Catherine WASSELIN with children
Guillaume BERNARD, and Philippe BERNARD. Nothing to back it up though.

I did wonder whether the abbreviation could be for Philibert or something similar.
Clarkson, Tolladay, Prevost, Killick, Hicks


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Re: French short paragraph from Rodiere (1589)
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 09:17 GMT (UK) »
It is Philippe ,see here

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Re: French short paragraph from Rodiere (1589)
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 09:20 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everybody.

Well spotted joger.

'Phtes' is a very strange abbreviation for 'Philippe' though!
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: French short paragraph from Rodiere (1589)
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 10:01 GMT (UK) »
I agree with you. The Rodiere papers are transcriptions of the original papers , that's why the writing is so easily read , 1589 writing would be much more difficult to decipher.

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Re: French short paragraph from Rodiere (1589)
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 10:07 GMT (UK) »
I agree with you. The Rodiere papers are transcriptions of the original papers , that's why the writing is so easily read , 1589 writing would be much more difficult to decipher.

Yep!  :D
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs