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The Will of Richard Stanier (1661)
« on: Tuesday 07 November 23 13:22 GMT (UK) »
Yet another Stanier will! This one is proving difficult in parts as the result of the inventory being written on two sides of one sheet of paper(?) and as a result, the ink has bled through. But here goes. The will is for a Richard Stanier, dated 1661. The full set of images can be seen here:

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FSTAFF%2F007621436%2F00209&parentid=GBPRS%2FSTAFF%2FWILLS%2F339925

for those with appropriate access. I have made some guesses on the letter and words in [..] based on the inventories in other Stanier wills, but I'd like a second opinion on the ones I'm not sure of.

The first item I'm not sure about is "the Chamber over the Bolting House", which raises the question, what on earth is a Bolting House?

The second areas in question are from the Kitchen and the bolting house, for which I have (excluding the valuation):

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One longe table & forme One little table one
   Cubart & two cheres
Item   two pooth & five kettles & a [?]ednet skin [??] &
   bastings Ladle & forme other small brass things

and

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Item   for one fryinge-pan and some tin things
   and [?]sipinge pan & sh[?]ddings knife & other
   things there
Item   for ba[?]ken in the said Roomse
Item   for one grate f[?]ar shovel & pott geal[?] &
   Tonges two spits & cob=irons   
Item   for one [??] paire of sh[??] [??] one little   
   Paire

   In the boltinge house
For all simple [??] & things forgotten
Item for all things in the milk house for the
   Sh[??] milk=pans & [??] and all
ea[?] ware in the said Roome


Looking at it again, the last line I think reads earthen ware.

Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs.,  Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.<br />Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.<br />Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex<br />Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.

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Re: The Will of Richard Stanier (1661)
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 16:45 GMT (UK) »
Being on my way to bed I've picked some of the lower-hanging fruit:

...and dripinge pan & shredinge knife...

...for one grate fyar shovell...

...for one longe peice to shute in & on little
peice

In the boltinge house
for all Implements & things forgotten

It(e)m for all things in the milke house for the
shilves milk=panns & other ticknall and all
earthen ware


ticknall looks reasonably clear but it's a new one for me.

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Re: The Will of Richard Stanier (1661)
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 17:45 GMT (UK) »
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ticknall looks reasonably clear but it's a new one for me.

The town of Ticknall in Derbyshire was a pottery making centre. Apparently much of the production in the 17th century onwards was kitchen and dairy ware.

https://www.ticknalllife.co.uk/ticknall-potteries/

I wonder if this led to the items being commonly known as ticknall?
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Re: The Will of Richard Stanier (1661)
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 03:12 GMT (UK) »
That's genius Jen.  It feels right to me.

A couple more:

...two poots & five ketles & a debnet skiner &
bastinge Ladle & some other small brass things


for backen in the said Roome [= bacon]

I can't add anything to the pott geal?s.


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Re: The Will of Richard Stanier (1661)
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 04:40 GMT (UK) »
I think it is boiling house rather than bolting house. Where clothes were washed and maybe hams boiled etc. 

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Re: The Will of Richard Stanier (1661)
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 06:41 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your help and contributions.

As regards the Bolting/Boiling room, there are two references to this in the inventory, only one of which I have shown in the clips. I've compared both and I'm fairly confident it is Bolting and not Boiling. A Bolting house is where flour was bolted, i.e. sifting flour to remove chaff. I would normally associate a Bolting House with a mill, and Richard's father was a miller. Unfortunately, I don't know where the farm is located within the Sutton Coldfield parish, or where Richard's father's mill was located - there are quite a number of possibilities.

I suspect some items are named with local dialect words, and I'm left to puzzle over pootsdebnet skiners, cob irons and the longe peice to shute in. The explanation tor ticknell, given its proximity in the inventory to the references to earthenware I think is spot on.
Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs.,  Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.<br />Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.<br />Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex<br />Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.

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Re: The Will of Richard Stanier (1661)
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 09:01 GMT (UK) »
I think it is boiling house rather than bolting house. Where clothes were washed and maybe hams boiled etc.

It's definitely 'bolting'.

Just following up on what mezentia has said, the Dialect Dictionary has 'bolting' as 'the coarse meal which is sifted from the flour'., and 'bolting house' as 'the place in which meal is sifted'
https://archive.org/details/englishdialectdi01wrig/page/332/mode/2up
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Re: The Will of Richard Stanier (1661)
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 09:09 GMT (UK) »
The Dialect Dictionary has 'cob irons' as 'Andirons; the 'dogs' of a fireplace; the irons on which the spit & is supported'.

https://archive.org/details/englishdialectdi01wrig/page/678/mode/2up
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Re: The Will of Richard Stanier (1661)
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 09:22 GMT (UK) »
poots - this probably = pots, as they are listed alongside the kettles.