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Place in Kingsbury Parish
« on: Tuesday 07 November 23 14:40 GMT (UK) »
I have a will dated 1729 that mentions a place called Tibballs in Kingsbury. I suspect it may be a farm rather than a village or hamlet, but wondered if anyone might have any idea where it might have been. The resident was a Phillip Stanyer, and it is likely that he was there with one of his brothers, one of whom, Nathaniel, also died there.

Other names associated with the property are William Nightingale and Christopher Veazy
Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs.,  Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.<br />Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.<br />Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex<br />Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.

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Re: Place in Kingsbury Parish
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 14:58 GMT (UK) »
Looking via "Addresses" on FindMyPast census details, there are two dwellings in 1841 at Tibhall.  HO107/1130/4 folio 30 page 2.

Enumerator's Walk - same census.

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Re: Place in Kingsbury Parish
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 15:26 GMT (UK) »
And shown on this map -

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBC/1841/0005060285

Added:  Image attached!
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Re: Place in Kingsbury Parish
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 22:47 GMT (UK) »
Thank you :D

Having identified where "Tibbals" is, I am curious to know what exactly if Phillip Stanier's relationship with the farm. His will states:

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Imprimis I give devise and bequeath all all that my Messuage or
Tenement with the Appurtenances wherein I now live and all the Crofts Closes
Leasons Meadows pastures or parcells of inclosed Ground thereunto belonging
unto Thomas Wright of Hollington in the County of Warwick Yeoman and
his Heirs upon special trust and confidence nevertheless and to and for the
several uses following chargable nevertheless with the sum ̅e of forty shillings
p Annum as is herein after menc ̅oned (that is to say) To the use of William Nightingale
the younger of Ardington for and during the term of his natural life and from and
after his decease then to the use of behoof of the first son of the Body of the said William
Nightingale lawfully begotten or to be begotten and the Heirs of such first son lawfully
to be begotten

Does this imply that he owns the farm and is leaving it to Thomas Wright, and after Thomas dies, the farm passes to William Nightingale and his heirs? Phillip describes himslf in his will as a Gentleman.

I'm assuming Ardington means Erdington, but where is Hollington?
Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs.,  Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.<br />Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.<br />Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex<br />Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.


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Re: Place in Kingsbury Parish
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 08:23 GMT (UK) »
The wording in these old wills always baffles me  :-[ 

The only Hollington I can see is in North Staffordshire, not Warwickshire.
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Re: Place in Kingsbury Parish
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 08:50 GMT (UK) »
I am so relieved that I'm not the only one! I found Hollington in Staffordshire too, but now I wonder if it's the name of a farm rather than a town or village, so I'm off to NLS to pore over old maps again.
Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs.,  Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.<br />Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.<br />Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex<br />Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.

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Re: Place in Kingsbury Parish
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 09:22 GMT (UK) »
Possible?

There is a Holloughton a hamlet in Kingsbury as mentioned in the enumerators walk in reply #1 by BB

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WAR/Kingsbury

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Re: Place in Kingsbury Parish
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 09:25 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Cas, I missed that.
Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs.,  Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.<br />Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.<br />Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex<br />Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.