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Leonard Bradley
« on: Wednesday 08 November 23 09:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I am trying to help a friend with her Fam Tree and she has a Leonard Robert BRADLEY b 1876 in Islington.

He apparently died on a ship details below in 1917 and the details were found on a website called Remember the Fallen. This answer states that he was in the Army but was a member of the Nigerian Civil Service. It gives details of his marriage to Gertrude FROGGATT.
If he was in the Army as this seems to suggest, why can I not find any details on the CWGC etc

Thanks you Tom



BRADLEY Leonard Robert
First Name(s):
Leonard
Robert
Surname:
BRADLEY
Service Number:
L0
Rank:
Unknown

Conflict:
WW1
Service:
Army
Former Units:
None
Date of Death:
Unknown
Age At Death:
Place of Death:
Unknown
Place of Burial:
Unknown
Place of Birth:
Unknown
Home Town:
Unknown
Casualty's Relatives:
Unknown
Remember The Fallen - Lest We Forget
BRADLEY Leonard Robert Is Named On These Memorials
Eastham St Peter and St Paul’s Church Bradley Memorial
Further Information About BRADLEY Leonard Robert
The marriage of Lennard R Bradley to Gertrude E. Froggatt/Froggett is registered in the December Quarter 1915 under the Tenbury Registration District.

SS Umgeni left the Clyde in convoy on 7th November 1917 bound for Lagos.  The convoy ran into bad weather and the ships became separated.  SS Umgeni was never seen again but bodies and wreckage from the ship were washed up along the West coast of Ireland, the victims being recorded as drowned on 9th November 1917.

The inscription on the memorial reads:
IN LOVING MEMORY
OF
LENNARD ROBERT BRADLEY
NIGERIAN CIVIL SERVICE
WHO WAS LOST AT SEA WITH ALL ON BOARD
THE S.S. UMGENI NOVEMBER 1917
AGED 41 YEARS
THIS TABLET IS ERECTED BY HIS WIDOW
KENT-CANTERBURY & DEAL areas.  Brient-Hitchcock-Reynolds-Pittock;O'Neill-Ireland-Whitman-Harvey-Martin-Norris
ESSEX-DEDHAM- Hitchcock
HANTS-BASINGSTOKE, PRESTON CANDOVER & surrounding areas, Mills-Whitman-Marshall-Whitear-Hall-Patience-Burke-Bulpit-Wise-Marlow-Page - Pragnell.
SOMERSET-FROME area, Marshall. Dredge.
WILTSHIRE-HORNINGSHAM area-Marshall
ABERDEEN-Middleton-Milne-Cruickshank-Stevenson-Ogg

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Re: Leonard Bradley
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 10:19 GMT (UK) »
Probate record -
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Found a record which gives his regimental No. as 22467


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Re: Leonard Bradley
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 10:31 GMT (UK) »

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Re: Leonard Bradley
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 10:36 GMT (UK) »
The Probate entry and service number are for a Harry Leonard Bradley - not the same man as Lennard Robert Bradley.
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Re: Leonard Bradley
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 10:57 GMT (UK) »
I originally found Lennard Robert Bradley's probate on FindMyPast - which fitted the Eastham location.

I then checked Wills on line which delivered the "other" Bradley which I mistakenly posted.

Apologies for confusion.

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Re: Leonard Bradley
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 11:00 GMT (UK) »
Lennard Robert Bradley was an accountant and had been travelling back and forth between UK and Nigeria since 1909. He and his wife Gertrude Ellen (nee Froggatt) had arrived in UK on 10 June 1917 and he was returning to Lagos on the Umgeni.

I doubt very much that he was in the army.

Addresses to check out:  5 Rosemount Terrace, North Finchley
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1518/images/30807_A000636-00169

and Eastham Court, Tenbury
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1904/images/31874_222791-00304
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Re: Leonard Bradley
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 11:00 GMT (UK) »
Thank you kind people.
Tom
KENT-CANTERBURY & DEAL areas.  Brient-Hitchcock-Reynolds-Pittock;O'Neill-Ireland-Whitman-Harvey-Martin-Norris
ESSEX-DEDHAM- Hitchcock
HANTS-BASINGSTOKE, PRESTON CANDOVER & surrounding areas, Mills-Whitman-Marshall-Whitear-Hall-Patience-Burke-Bulpit-Wise-Marlow-Page - Pragnell.
SOMERSET-FROME area, Marshall. Dredge.
WILTSHIRE-HORNINGSHAM area-Marshall
ABERDEEN-Middleton-Milne-Cruickshank-Stevenson-Ogg

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Re: Leonard Bradley
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 11:04 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Leonard Bradley
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 11:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Shaun,

Thank you, may I ask where you discovered that he had been travelling since 1909?

Thanks Tom
KENT-CANTERBURY & DEAL areas.  Brient-Hitchcock-Reynolds-Pittock;O'Neill-Ireland-Whitman-Harvey-Martin-Norris
ESSEX-DEDHAM- Hitchcock
HANTS-BASINGSTOKE, PRESTON CANDOVER & surrounding areas, Mills-Whitman-Marshall-Whitear-Hall-Patience-Burke-Bulpit-Wise-Marlow-Page - Pragnell.
SOMERSET-FROME area, Marshall. Dredge.
WILTSHIRE-HORNINGSHAM area-Marshall
ABERDEEN-Middleton-Milne-Cruickshank-Stevenson-Ogg